beast27 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 I'm a beginner and I want to buy my first bike. What bike should I buy? I'm about 170 cm tall and the very max is £360 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Depends what type of riding you have done previously, and wether you want to ride street, tgs, or natural/comps. To start with I'd suggest something fairly middle of the road geo wise, not too high in the middle, fairly forgiving and good to progress on. How tall is 170cm in Church of England? If you come from a mtb background, get a stock(26"). If you come from BMX, get a mod (19" rear, 20" front), or a 24 streety style. That's just my opinion anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beast27 Posted March 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 (edited) I'm come from BMX. What unit are you use? Feet? Edited March 28, 2013 by beast27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisTrials2012 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 I'm come from BMX. What unit are you use? Feet? At your height, buy a 20" bike secondhand. Try and get something with plus 70 bottom bracket, and about 1000mm long. Buy something with a good drive train, and a nice wheel set and stem and handlebar setup(about 150mm × 30°) and a high rise bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Danny00135 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 plus 70 bottom bracket. This isn't essential for a begginer.. And also, Coming from a BMX background I assume you'll still keep a similar style? Shorter frame for their "flickier" nature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradJohnson Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Monty 221 PR is the perfect geo if your coming from BMX, i loved mine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Or an 09 onza blade, something along those lines geo wise. +70 is massive for a beginner, it'll more than likely hinder than progress him. Or an 09 echo lite, same bb, but slightly longer depending on which version you get 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisTrials2012 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 No it won't hinder him, it'll be unusual for about half a day, then it'll feel good. Why would he buy a beginners bike, when he could get a modern one at the start and progress on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny00135 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 No it won't hinder him, it'll be unusual for about half a day, then it'll feel good. Why would he buy a beginners bike, when he could get a modern one at the start and progress on that. Because its too unusual to actually get the right feel, Short frames with high BBs are designed for competition riding, where when on the rear wheel it feels more comfortable, also, technical lines where you find yourself upright on the bike allow you so stand straight on the bike instead of hanging off the back.. However, higher BB bikes throw your centre of balance higher, making it more difficult to stay balanced on two wheels, and given two wheel moves are what beginners feel more comfortable and allow them to progress to a higher level quickly, where they can then feel the benefit from moving to a different bike... My current bike has a +40 BB (stock) And is the highest BB I've ever had, I don't find myself in many positions where I'll need to be very upright on the bike so I don't need it.. High BB doesn't always mean its good, the only reason the high end bikes have high BBs is because they're competition bikes.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisTrials2012 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 +70 on a mod is very normal actually, and a high handle bar setup will compensate for the raised position. Plus 1000mm isn't very short. Talk to Flipp about his high BB,short frame, doubt that's a comp bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny00135 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 +70 on a mod is very normal actually, and a high handle bar setup will compensate for the raised position. Plus 1000mm isn't very short. Talk to Flipp about his high BB,short frame, doubt that's a comp bike. Custom brakelss frame... You can't use that as an example -.- The only reason it's common is koxx make comp bikes with high BBs so everyone follows.. Knowing people will buy given its similar to the high end.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisTrials2012 Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 f**k it, give him a BMX frame to ride trials on so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalopS Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 All these seem pretty good buys depending on what kind of riding you want to do. Second one down is local pickup though... http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/topic/181253-onza-zoot-swap-for-mod/ http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/topic/181216-monty-221-xlite-for-sale-with-profile-hub/ http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/topic/181116-fs-echo-lite-09-with-brand-new-parts-good-spec-really-good-condition/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beast27 Posted March 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 It doesn't matter for me how long the bike is, or the size of BB, I want to start it from 0 like I have no experience of any bike sports 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisTrials2012 Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 It doesn't matter for me how long the bike is, or the size of BB, I want to start it from 0 like I have no experience of any bike sports I'd go with the echo lite 09 linked in Calops post. Nice solid bike, good geo and nice parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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