RyanRs Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 well, as it sais really..... i no hope h/sets are the dogs, but what about the Echo ones, there just as good looking and £20 cheaper! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brisa Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 On paper they sound just as good, all depends if you want that dicky head doctor thing from the hope or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endohopper Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Well , Hope's unit is long tried and tested , whereas I suspect not a single rider in the U.K has yet fitted / ridden a new Echo headset . That said , the Echo seems to be very well designed , and it's blue would be a perfect finishing touch to my Base . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
street trials rider Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 i'd suggest adding £20 to a hope and getting a Chris King imported off Aspirevelotech from ebay.com.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durkie Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 how about any of them? it's a headset. who cares? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 I hated my hope headset, worst one I have bought. not tried the echo so cant comment. FSA heasets are my fave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_Porter Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 dont get a hope one, i have had 3 and all of them have been a bit poo. the cups are really weak and dent really easy... say if you tried back wheeling a rail and the it slid up the down tube and hit the bottom cup it will dent it. thats my opinion on hopes, i would never get another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunkey_monkey_boy Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 i've got a hope and can honestly say i think its shite. i much prefer fsa pig headsets far smoother and far more reliable. i might try an echo one soon because i want rid of this shit hope one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 I am surprised by this. My Hope headset is nice. I would agree with the denting thing, it's pretty soft metal, but it's never affected the performance for me. But if lots of people are saying don't get a Hope, then don't. The Hed Doctor thing is pretty useless - Heavier than a starnut (Which works fine anyway) and won't work with all forks. Get an FSA skypilot or something. They are good, and a fair bit cheaper than a Hope :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Cook Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 My hope headset is crap. The seals are so week and fiddley! Fsa definatly or Chrs King But the echos seem really good :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanRs Posted November 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 (edited) how about any of them? it's a headset. who cares? because depending on what you do on your bike, headsets can die.. and if your like me, spending all day smashing the front tyre into stupidly high walls trying to backwheel them, and doing front hops into drop offs , then if the headset is shit, its gona die quick... and possably flare the headtube at the same time.. i put a lot of demand on my headsets, as i love reverse endo tricks, like g-turns, squeekers etc... i usually use Fsa Orbit XL II headsets, but they die after about 6 months.... i have snapped the top cup off the bit that slides in the frame on 2 orbit headsets.. but for there mild reliability, i have stuck with them.... but now i wana try sumin else.. think it mite be Echo headset then, the rest of there stuff seems prity ace :blink: Edited November 4, 2005 by RyanRs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_P Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 So that makes 2 of us who love our Hopes then :lol: Mines perfect, although I can say I havent smashed the back of it into a rail yet, god I hate rails. Mines been on my echo and now my BT, been perfect, never serviced it in any way and it's given me nothing but sexual pleasure. Just get one there sexy :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
street trials rider Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 my hope WAS perfect till i found out how easy they dent (trying to chainring stall a rail to fakey, god it dented so easy, and there was only the weight of the bike behind it.... gone to CK and i'm well happy B) if you do want a good headset for cheap though i would recomend a FSA orbit XLII.. i had mine for a good 4 years, then the bearings gave up on me, the cups took a good beating aswell :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat hudson Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 im pretty sure the echo is just a rebranded shite generic headset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nafan Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 I hope that the new echo ones are better than the old ones, just got one for £35 and they're pretty shod, it keeps coming loose then tightening again, and its creaky, can anyone help me out to save me making a thread on this... Cheers dudes, Nathan... (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat hudson Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 grease the crap out of it. that should take care of the creaking. but really, just get a pig .(Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nafan Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 I had a pig and the lower bearing cage kept snapping... :) It should be ok, I'll try loosening it a bit 'cos it was loose a lil' while ago I may have tightened it too much... Cheers anyways matt (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsriderjim Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 I have a hope head set in my jump bike works fine feels nice i wood go for the hope mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat hudson Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 the bearing cages are only there for convienience. just get a pack of bearings and shove'em in (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp101 Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 I suggest the Hope. I like how I can walk down to Chris King HQ.. (Y) If you guys really want the Chris', I see them at by the lot at local shops, I could ask them if they would ship it overseas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
street trials rider Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 I have a hope head set in my jump bike works fine feels nice i wood go for the hope mate on jump bikes the headset cups dont take the same amount of abuse as smashing the back of it into a rail when coming short on a rail gap (for example) If you guys really want the Chris', I see them at by the lot at local shops, I could ask them if they would ship it overseas. best way to get a king into the UK is to go to ebay.com (not .co.uk) and search for "chris king" and find the "aspire velotech" guys... really cheap + fast delivery from the USA to UK.. its where i got mine (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Smith Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 i recommend hope all the way, although the best headsets they made, they discontinued..................the enduro model, this was the taper roller bearing model, more adjustability than the xc model headset, but slightly heavier, i would advise a hope over a king simply because of the price difference, plus it is british made, you cannot beat hopes machining quality........... hope all the way................ ash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houseface Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 get the echo one,because the hope would be designed round all styles off biking and the echo would be designed round trials,wouldn't it? or just get an fsa pig headset,worked for me for quite a long time now and im not the smoothest of riders. steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Such Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 i'd suggest adding £20 to a hope and getting a Chris King imported off Aspirevelotech from ebay.com.... . my opinion too (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janson Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 i have been using a £5 quid no-name headset for 14 or 15 months now. It is not very smooth but it's not broken or dented. I can't do anything but tap on my bike. I'd like a King one, but I don't feel the need for one. I can't understand how you kill headsets.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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