Glass Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 WB: ~1071mmCS: 350mmETT: 643mmHA: 71.5ºBBD:+35mmcheck the pic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_Tupman Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Could be intresting, no one has made a long WB 24 yet so i'll be intresting to see how it rides/looks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Motivator Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Needs longer stays. It would ride too 'mod' otherwise, and you don't want that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walleee Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Hardly a prototype, an Idea/Design mabye, but not a proto.....I actually like the look of the geometry, what were you thinking of using for tubing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glass Posted December 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 (edited) true it is more a design rather than prototype.My first try was with STASHE (what happened to them? The page is no longer online) and I used the following geometry:WB:1065mmHA: 71.5mmBBD:+20mmChainstays: 365mmI designed the bike to be what Koxx would make if they made a 24" wheeled trials bike.The bike rode like a dream. Super agile on back wheel, like a mod, but with a long front end which made it super stable. The long wheelbase also made things sweet (my previous bike was a Echo ES3 WB 1009mm).I noticed I still had a gap between the back tyre and the BB so the chainstays could have been shorten. Then the BT Ninja came out with 365mm with a rear 26x2.5 and I thought damn I'm sure I can squeeze a 24" into 350mm. Then I found some guy who had made 345mm chainstays and run a 24" wheel so I though, defo! Course I dont want to go shorter than 350mm cause mods havent (even though they could go under 300mm) so perhaps there is a limit...as for the rest well I'm currently riding a 1100mm Koxx Levelboss circa 2003 with 24" wheels so I've gotten used to the even longer effective top tube so I thought I'd incorporate the added length (about 24mm) into my next frame. Also increased the bb drop cause a BBH of 350mm feels better (I ran a 26" front wheel a few times on my Stashe 24).Problem is iolobikes only deal with steel and I want an alum bike cause of weight issues (the carbon frame was 1800g)Oh yeah and I also want a bashguard so i dont have to use a bashring.PS: why am I riding the koxx now cause the carbon frame cracked near the chainstay Edited December 20, 2006 by Glass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
011001000110010101110010 Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 the BB is too high, if you want a bike like that you dont need 24" wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJI Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 (edited) You seen the banner at the top of the page for Unique bikes? I believe they make aluminium frames.Looks interesting. How are you running the 24" wheels in the Koxx? I designed an adapter kinda like the monty 25-26 adapter, but have never had a need to make one.Personally I wouldn't be able to ride a bike with your suggested geometry at all, but meh, that's just me. Your old frame I'd probably get along with very nicely for comp style riding though.Edit: just noticed you're running dual disc and that to my suprise some levelboss's have disc mounts. haha, how'd I not notice that before! Edited December 20, 2006 by Dont you Just Hate it When... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philking Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 So was STASHE a company who made custom carbon frames? interesting idea. I like the look of your design, if you want custom alloy then i think mielec is the only company who do it (as far as i know). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glass Posted December 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 So was STASHE a company who made custom carbon frames? interesting idea. I like the look of your design, if you want custom alloy then i think mielec is the only company who do it (as far as i know).yep STASHE is the company that made (still makes?) custom carbon frames and not just trial frames. I heard of them through www.vtcz.chThanks for the info I'll look into mielic and Unique bikes (I never look at flashing things on websites by default )Yeah my levelboss frame has a disc mount thats how I'm able to run a rear 24" I've always run 24s with discs cause I started out with 26" wheeled frames. [attachmentid=8845]My Echo ES3 also had a rear disc mount.[attachmentid=8846] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Could be intresting, no one has made a long WB 24 yet so i'll be intresting to see how it rides/looks.Quick spider on here has a 1080mm heatsink 24 prototype... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glass Posted December 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Quick spider on here has a 1080mm heatsink 24 prototype...I'd like to see a pic of that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatsink Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 I'd like to see a pic of that!Your wish is my command ^ Jon Fisher's prototype 24UK with longer WB. Still going strong!This frame will be 1 year old very soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Looks pretty swish. Hmmm, maybe my next frame... (but with normal wb) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glass Posted December 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Your wish is my command ^ Jon Fisher's prototype 24UK with longer WB. Still going strong!This frame will be 1 year old very soon.Awesome though I'd lose the seat. Whats the rest of the geo like? The BB looks low though! Does Heatsink make custom frames? Cause I don't want the standard 24" heatsink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_skj0lsvik_ Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 I believe that this frame has around 20mm bb+, the standard one atleast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie2000 Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 that heatsink just looks weird i prefer shorter 24" long bikes just look weird with 24" wheels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
011001000110010101110010 Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 that heatsink just looks weird i prefer shorter 24" long bikes just look weird with 24" wheelsi rekon it looks forking brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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