colly Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 right i hooked by a flook the other night about 40 inch if it was a hook :deej:" (N) :deej: but then i tried to do 52 inch(vertical step) in my local skate park (only got my front wheel over the top and never hit bash or got to back wheel) and im wondering how quick you have to go i had about 5-6 bike lenght run up and i pedeld to lift as i dont feel confident bunnyhopping up so could some one please give me a blufferes guide on how quick, to pedal or bunny hopped? can it be done by pedaling? and what is the best height to start on thanks :P :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducko Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 if you have the first video of andy thingy mubob(the american guy) koxx days video at the start it has a slow mo clip of benito ros doing a front hook! i think if you watch this you could see how its done, i no you have to move fast thou :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Andrew Tonkery: AndrewT on here, AndyT on OTN (N) The vid is Koxx Days THE ONE. I think there was a post in NMC with a pictorial guide of how to do it, try a search for that? Seemed like it'd be pretty helpful :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiltop Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 basically you go as fast as you dare/can. bunny hoping up is easier as you can get a fair bit more speed up. it is very hard to learn im still struggling with verticle walls. manage to do it after a fair few attempts. try it on slightly off verticle walls it is suprisingly easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Has anyone seen my shoe? Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 I think there was a post in NMC with a pictorial guide of how to do it, try a search for that? Seemed like it'd be pretty helpful (Y) ← It was but the admin seem to have deleted everything til page 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colly Posted June 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 thats the thing i cant seem to get the hang of on the long bikes bunny hoping up 3ft walls to it will be hard for me to hook is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 thats the thing i cant seem to get the hang of on the long bikes bunny hoping up 3ft walls to it will be hard for me to hook is it? ← I'm not really sure of the bit you put before the bold type... But yes, hooking is *in my mind* the hardest technique to get down. With the possible exception of brakeless wedges, but thats a whole different story. So yeh, it is hard. Bunny hopping into it is relitively easy actually, as you don't have to do that much hopping, you just need to hop enough to get your front wheel over the top (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh_b Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 the best technique for "26" is front touch to back or both wheels. However the hook is used quite abit in "26" inch to. try pulkling up about 1 1/2 bike lenghts before the obsticle if it's a big hook. For the bigger ones try rolling up to it at jogging pace. start slower and get faster. -Hugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrashZen Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Will be putting something on the topic, whenever I get some good video. :D" slow motion etc...I guess this technique deserves a nice page. :( I also need to sort it out for myself (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colly Posted June 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 ive always had issues with confidence on pulling the front wheel up with bunny hopping just incase the wheel plants into the step :huh:" any videos out now with a good front hook so i can look at it? thanks colly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Andrew Tonkery: AndrewT on here, AndyT on OTN (Y) The vid is Koxx Days THE ONE. ← any videos out now with a good front hook so i can look at it? thanks colly ← :huh:" Yeh get that vid, it has a couple of hooks on walls, and numerous on natural 'walls'. And you should have that vid in your collection anyways, as it owns :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightyco. Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 Bunny hopping is good if the surface before the object is flat and smooth, but if there is a dip before it, as there generally is when riding natural you have to pedel to avoid a nasty faceplant like I have done on many occasions. You could start the bunny hop earlier but then it is not as efficient, and you may as well be pedeling up. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colly Posted June 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 where is that vid n.wood? thanks colly (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 OTN - Search for 'AndyT Koxx days one' and it should come up (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colly Posted June 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 thanks downloading it now it is the 11 min one isnt it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 It is indeed...Has Trail of the Dead : Mach Shau as the first song (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanRs Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Koxx days one: could someone shack it or something please?? I think with front hooks, the more speed you have, the easier it is.. but obviously, if you miss judge it, the harder you hit the wall! i think the idea is to launch at it like its a rolling gap and keep your groin against the bars and your head up high, so when you hit the wall and the back wheel bounces, you have your body high enough to pull the bike upward... Ry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colly Posted June 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 best height to try? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smo™ Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 I reckon something where you can hold your bike hanging over the wall with at least a foot between the back wheel and the ground. I've found that trying it on bigger stuff can be easier as (believe it or not) there's less room for error, you hit above the ground and you're not going to drag on the floor or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 (edited) Video This used to be on the biketrials.pl site but has since disappeared. Perfect technique (Y) Dave Edited June 10, 2005 by monkeyseemonkeydo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruiser1 Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 Perfect slo-mo side shot of Vincent hooking a massive ledge during the Koxx days Paris ride. Vid inside: http://www.observedtrials.net/vb/showthread.php?t=13463 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe b Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 I'm not really sure of the bit you put before the bold type... But yes, hooking is *in my mind* the hardest technique to get down. With the possible exception of brakeless wedges, but thats a whole different story. So yeh, it is hard. Bunny hopping into it is relitively easy actually, as you don't have to do that much hopping, you just need to hop enough to get your front wheel over the top :( ← Ditto to the first bit, im just kinda getting the hang of it on very slightly slanted walls! What's a brakeless wedge? :lol: I know, sorry... Cheers, Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smo™ Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 Ever see the Coustellier vid in Paris (forgot the name, my bad) where Giacomo gets 'stuck' between a green phone cable box and a telephone box? He then switches up to front wheel on top of the telephone box, drops off and receives applause from the crowd? That's a brakeless wedge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamHolmes Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 (edited) Edit: Nevermind I got it wrong :( I can kinda hook 7 pallets with a slightly slanted 1 on but doing vertical just seems impossible, I just hit and and fly backwards straight away :lol: Edited June 11, 2005 by Python_Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Has anyone seen my shoe? Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 Edit: Nevermind I got it wrong :( I can kinda hook 7 pallets with a slightly slanted 1 on but doing vertical just seems impossible, I just hit and and fly backwards straight away :lol: ← Im guessing what you need to do is make sure your body is over the front end so that your crotch is more towards the bars. Thanks, Callum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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