I am a convert to the Meta way... and have been in email contact with the main man recently. I like their way of doing things and they certainly don't subscribe to the "lightweight is the only way" theory. They are going to run test frames on this new version for some months yet... he reckons not until easter will it be ready for sale, after they have made sure it won't break in use. Not heard of a Meta VTT breaking in normal use, more than can be said for some other well known frames... and the new one is, i think, much the same geo as the one i have. Just a bit lower on the top tube with the option of disc rear and horizontal drop-outs. Not keen on the Meta logo on the new one but looks so good in white mine is going to go that colour soon