Okay, De ronde van Vlaanderen is correct, I live nearby that place.. And what you're saying about the snapping bikes they made for road races is correct also, they've tried to make some carbon bikes but they all seemed to be snapping, and trials is like on of the bike sports where the bike suffers the most, so I think this won't happen.. Maybe some pro's prefer the lightness of carbon, but keep in mind they can afford a new carbon frame every 2 months.. So for us lowlifes, forget it Cheers, Sam