I only wanted some help Dr Doom was helpful, wasn't sure what Ryan wrote before he edited his post so I can't say for him. The reason I asked about if the hub would fit is because I had a ZHI frame with the same droputs and when it came to putting the wheel in I found that the hope hub sat wider than the frame by about 2 or 3 mm so I wanted to make sure, that was all really. Biddle