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Yeh as has been said, change the frame. Next is probably the tyres, that's a heavy combination!

Ozzy is a legend and will give the bike a good testing as will Dan6061! Who is more than mature enough to test a frame. As for Adam he's just about the nicest guy you could ever meet, and he's clever enough to understand how to get someone to weld or helicoil a frame for him. (BTW that lever was f**ked anyway, the bleed bolt was completely mashed up and there was no way of getting at it)

This is a UK forum, not an English forum, the UK includes Wales and Northern Ireland. If you don't like don't ask us to participate! Sorry but That's actually a fairly racist thing to say. We're childish because we're English? WTF?! You asked for £70 for us to test your frame for you for a Month. Can you not see where we're coming from? We're not being childish. £70 over here will get you a decent frame second hand for as long as you like. £70 is a lot of money for what you're asking! Now because we reacted all shocked and declared ourselves out we're children? Sorry but that is just not on at all. Stop thinking of England as a seperate country to the rest of the UK. For the purposes of this experiment think of us as one country. The attitudes and responses you have had from the whole of the UK have been exactly the same, we all have the same values, morals etc, so we all reacted the same. I don't get what you have against the English? Please find examples of where the English alone have shown themselves to be childish, I'd like to see where this has come from. Can you not see it for our point of view? You asked for testers, then asked us to pay £70 aswell as provide pictures, a detailed build, a review and a video. thats a lot of work in a month! I know you've dropped the £70 thing now, but can you not see where the hostility came from? The UK side won't fall apart. I know many of the riders on the list, and believe it or not, being English doesn't mean you're a twat. Or "dodgy". Can you not see it's not just us being stingy? Everyone has reacted the same? How is that being childish? I know I can get it mended if I snap it, and I'll be happy to do the testing, videos and stuff but I don't appreciate being called a child and dodgy...

Black forks and stem and that bike would be amazingly nice.

You are a proper registered business right? Look at it from our point of view. You asking customers to buy stuff from a website thats a 3 year old template that looks rushed, you only have a mobile number, the distributors don't have a record of selling you stuff, all the information is copied off other peoples sites... No offence but from where I'm sitting it could easily be a scam. That's just how it seems, it's probably nothing of the sort, just my thoughts.

I once got a rear Monty TI 06 wheel and a rear Mono Trial with brand new pads for £74. I think the brakes still going strong, JonMack's got it. On my current bike though it's have to be the grips. £4.89 of TrialTech goodness. Or the rear Rubber Queen, cost me £25, ridden twice or something daft, I think I've had it 6 months now, it's hardly worn at all. Cheers Ali, this tyre must be magical, it just doesn't wear at all.

You can only have one? I want a Dimma Clio, a Sierra Cosworth, an RS6, a Metro 6R4, some form of mini, a 205 GTI Mi16, a Lancia S4, a Pulsar GTiR, a wierd mk5 Escort Cosworth van thing for carrying bikes, an Audi Quattro S1, a Capri cosworth, a williams clio.... The list could go on. If I had to choose one it'd be either a Capri or Sierra Cosworth, or the S4.

The easiest way is to get a holesaw, cut out 3/4 holes and take away the excess with a dremmell.

Ah right, probably best shipping seperately then. I'm in, and I'm really loving the black one! The designs are really good. If I could afford it and was a good enough rider to know what geometry to ask for, I'd definately considor buying one. I wouldn't mind going to about £35 for the lot, and I reckon it will cost about £10-15 to post it on to the next stop, which leaves £20-25 to get it into the country. So looking foward to it now! Any idea of the dates?

Good stuff about the Paypal thing, that'll let appeal to more people. As far as i know it doesn't matter which website you got it off, it's content copyrighted by TartyBikes and belongs to them, so both you and your distributor are breaching copyright. (I think, I'm pretty sure though) I didn't see that, I Just thought it was wierd you didn't have one. I wasn't trying to knock you down in any way, it's constructive criticism. It just seems a shame that everything seems unprofessional and rushed. (Notice I said seems, that's just from where I'm sitting). Best of luck to you though, I hope you do well! Take on whats been said though, your potential customers know best. So yeh, if I were you I'd get a professional website built and the landline sorted. You don't need to spend thousands, there are plenty of Uni graduates dying for work!

Thats about £140 right between 12 of us? Which I reckon comes to about £12, then whatever we need to pay to post it to the next guy? Sounds good to me anyway. If we put the mod in the same box as the stock would it be cheaper to post than posting the seperately? I'm guessing it woul need to be insured upto double the amount of one frame, so I'm wondering if they'll charge double to post it? What about getting it back out of the country?

Practically every piece of text relating to trials is knicked from Tarty! First week of business and already you've broken the copyright law quite badly. The header/banner looks like it's been resized in the CSS ro HTML, it ooks realy jagged and the words are hard to make out. You should resize the original picture to the size you want, then it will look a lot better in the browser. Looks to me like you've used a template and uploaded your own photos and text to it? Not all very professional if I'm honest. In the webstore, the list of catagories in the box is really wierd and hard to use, and they're not even in alphabetical order. You also use mobile phones instead of landlines, and give two numbers but don't say which to ring for certain things. If you want to be competitive you need a decent website and phone system set up. You also need to be decent helpful blokes and send out the right stuff at the right time though. (But as has been shown, a fancy website will make up for it. ) You only accept google checkout? Not paypal which virtually everyone uses?

Any idea how much the cost will be to get it into the UK yet? I'm guessing you'll be sending both frames into the UK together of they're both going to Tarty first? Just struck me that might make it cheaper.

You tried linking pictures from your C: drive? That won't work, you need to sign up for a Photobucket account (or similar, but I'd recommend Photobucket). They're great for use on here, they automatically resize the photos for you and theres no size limit, so you won't end up with multiple accounts.

19 pages is bad these days?

http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/forum/index....=109447&hl=

Lol, any idea of the markup on Trials parts? f**k all compared to MTB and road bikes. I bet Tarty are giving over £200 for each one to Koxx, then they have to post it, store it etc.

Open yo eyes fool. But yeh, Continental need to do some Mod tyres. EDIT: Too slow.

I don't think I've known someone to own one that hasn't snapped. You can get far cheaper frames with a similar weight that are much stronger! I would have stuck with Echo if I were you and put light parts on it, they make brilliant comp bikes. Mine did anyway.

Monty front tyres are heavy though, get a Try-All, they're 65g lighter and much grippier. T-Pros have snail cam holes anyway don't they? But yeh, forks first, then bar/stem and wheels. If you can be arsed, by the sounds of it you'd do much better just to sell it and get a lighter bike, it will save you money in the long run and you'll end up with a better bike.

as my front cc the wire beads started coming out and kept buldging. Its a t-poo with stock front wheel, forks, stem and bars. :$ Rear onza hog wheel etc. In that case first change the forks, they're 1.4kg (or my set were anyway), and get some lites/SLs. That will save about 600-700g straight off, then the wheels are dead heavy, as are the bar and stem. If you change them you could loose about 1.5-2kg I reckon.

Don't bother, I did it on my mod and my stock and it saved f**k all, 18g on the mod an 60g on the stock. Unless you're bike is already super light it's not worth it. First step is change the tyres, you can save over a kilo depending on what you have now.

Missed this before. Mine hardly change the geometry at all, they make the WB 3mm longer and the BB 5mm lower on my Echo than with Lite forks, and I trusted them more. I rode them properly, I never thought I'd better not do something in case they snapped. My mate Ryan used to wind me up by doing gaps to front and hopping on the front wheel on them though, they never showed any sign of weakness, and he did it a lot!

I love my carbons, they're a little more flexy than the Echo Lites I had but they're really springy, the Lites felt a bit dead. I think they're getting on for about 2 years old now? Possibly 3, I go them with a bike I bought from Craig R (trialsalot), he made them. I wouldn't recommend them for a stock though, I tried them on mine and the extra width of the wheel gave it too much leverage and they were too flexy. They are fantastic, but I wouldn't have modified them myself. Mine are surprisingly strong, I've been doing slaps and hooks loads with mine and they havn't snapped, and I ran them for over a year. When you get them right they are fantastic, but it's a bit hit and miss, it's not like with aluminium forks, there isn't a lot of proof/testing with carbon forks. Mine are cut down Pace XC forks, but i don't know of anyone else apart from the Butlers who run/have run them. Just get some Viz/TrialTech/Echos, to be honest it's not worth the hassle, I doubt I'll own any again. I'll miss them but the cost makes it not worth doing, they were £150 to buy and £80 to have cut down and rebonded, or you can just buy some Aluminium ones for £50 second hand.

Looking good Ad! How come you only used one snow clip though? That was probably the most fun ride I've had in years. You can see my shadow moving in the bottom left on the snowy clip I think.