Totally agree with you dude, giving them an advance warning of what we're doing doesn't seem to be the best card to play. They're pretty hot on it even when there's a relatively small ride - one last year ended up with us getting chased out of St. Paul's by a few police horses, followed by some vans all over the place when we got to the roads. Only 15 or so of us were riding there at that point, too Meh, whatever happens, it'll be sweet. Anyone on 24's, prepare to have me come and introduce myself, and probably follow you around all day taking mental notes on how to do this thing!!