Martin Reynolds

It'd also be nice if the onza website showed more detail about the bikes. Tarty are spot on when it comes to giving product information

I thought this, but wasn't sure if it could create problems with causing a vacuum. I'm guessing it just works by creating a barrier between the bb threads and frame threads to stop them welding together?

sod it, cba to argue. Any advice to prevent this in the future will help people

http://www.selectbikes.com/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=30 - The bearing races are integrated into the bb shell giving larger bearings which means a stronger bb.

Im pretty sure it is one part. the drive side cup contains the axle, and both bearing integrated into it. I'll break the cup up anyway, its just all a big piss off. Adam, is there any way to prevent his happening again? im guessing Grease/lubricant will still have the same effect as it can cause a vacuum?

No, the threads are there, what Adam is saying is that because both thread surfaces are so finely machined they've cold fused. Worse case i'll hammer/cut the axle out, then air demmel the cup until its breakable, but id prefer to find a less crude way of doing it

So BECAUSE the threads are that good and clean, they lock together? that's BULLS**T! I had the tool locked in with a crank bolt and a washer, a 2 foot 32mm spanner, and i was putting my entire weight on the frame.... thats when the tool broke. SO annoyed! Would using an impact gun help? shocking the threads?

So i was messing around and test fitted a bottom bracket to my Born Ultimatum 26" 2011 frame. The bottom brackets a first spurs pro (i know trials companies re-brand these). I put the drive side cup assembly in by hand (with the tool oviously, but no spanner) and got it in 90% then it started going tight where the thread stops before the end of the cup. i didnt force it and went to undo it and it went tight. I got a spanner on it, and the bottom bracket went stupidly tight. I tried working the threads by winding the bottom bracket in and out, but this didnt help. In the end i completly destroyed my bottom bracket tool. The frame is BRAND NEW, and the threads on the bottom bracket are MINT! I seriously dont why its happened Idea's people?

You'll properly find most of the 100 odd grams weight difference is due to the extra length in the Maladie. I prefer the Maladie Was/might still be my next frame after my blade

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589g for a set of Echo SL 20" 2011 forks (679g for stock) and you expect them to last?

Cant disagree with you more Only freewheel worth having.... echo... Hubs, rims.... And how many people are riding echo lites/trial/pure? Its all that i see

But your comparing your pedals to his. Not taking into account riders weight, power, riding style, amount of time riding, blah blah. you cant simply say a product is shit because someone broke it in a relatively short period of time. Especially with the small batches that trials products are made in, your going to expect manufacturing defects, ect.

But trialtech pedals are heavier, and smaller, so of course they're going to be stronger

Oh no, a lightweight trials part broke because of the stress it goes through...

Another thing to take into account is piston material. Aluminium pistons disperse heat quicker, but they disperse heat into the brake fluid, which can boil brake fluid. I know in cars they use stainless steel pistons to prevent heat from being dispersed into the brake fluid as quickly.

ALL ive heard about 3mobile is shit to be honest. Mainly charging people for features they havnt used

What, something like the trialtech sl with 130mm by 25 degree rise? it sounds like an appropriate geo to me Ive got a mod onza stem (165 by 35), which i'll properly slap on for the minute because its the only stem i have atm, but i can imagin with me being not that tall, that it'd be quite a streach

I apologise for this being one of the thousand types of these topics, but as im building my first stock, really dont know what geo stem i should use. Ive got a Born Ultimatum 26" 2011 frame, geo is : Wheelbase: 1100mm Chainstay Length: 380mm BB Rise: 60mm Head Angle: 70.5° The bars im using are echo sl risers : Width: 740mm (29.1in) Total rise: 75mm Upsweep: 7° Backsweep: 6° Im about 5ft 9, if that helps

But you're a pretty smooth rider, rnt you? Not slating them or anything, ive just had a mate crack two frames in the same place and pretty easily by the sounds of it.

Dont they crack near the seatstay? like really easily?

Hurrrr durrrr?

Yeh, i havnt cracked two of them

Ive pretty much had the blade frame for the last year and a half. Admittedly, ive cracked it twice though. (im not exactly a light/smooth rider though!) And there is alot of frame flex unless you run a booster. The geo's nice, light frame and fairly cheap. I haven't ridden an Echo lite, but they defiantly seem popular, and i love the press fit bb idea.

Yes, 110mm hub, and the snail cams are 3mm wide each, so it all equals 116mm