At first it felt realy short i mean nearly fliping over the bars but that was because i was running a monty stem but i have a long stem now(v!z) and it side hops so nice now got 36" and that was my first try at side hopping Ilove it now and wouldn't try another frame for a long time it has improved my riding so much. You have to pay more for the bash but i would definatly recomend it. cheers for the replies guy's, ricky