Ali & Mark, you're both clearly arguing with people who aren't as good at it than you are. Would you argue with an 8 year old child, no you'd go awww isn't he cute and walk away. Just stop. You made your points 6 pages ago, no need to keep on going.
Octagon, your rep on here after the thread in the disputes section is appalling... and did you really call someone 'specy 4 eyes'? You're going on about peoples age yet you try to insult someone with an insult that a 4 year old uses?
Ali, you started all this, even though it may have been a joke, there was no need for it and it was obviously going to start all this crap.