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They compared a standard macbook with a laptop that has a carbon fibre lower tray and main chassis section, didn't mention its made of CF then said its evenly matched. They also didn't mention that the DELL machine can have its RAM upgraded for only £30 etc. It was a VERY biased example. They also had side by side graphs of two completely different laptops trying to make the macbook look lighter and nicer. They compared it with a gaming laptop, those things are more like portable mini pc's with replacable SLI'd graphics solutions. Hardly the same as the macbook, then they said the macbook bundles everything into a neater and smaller package. Besides, they weren't comparing which can be built for cheaper by a home user, they were comparing final solutions for laptops by recognised vendors. It was so skewed its unreal. What they should have done is gone to pc world etc and picked up two equally priced laptops, one a mac and the other a windows machine and seen what the spec/build quality is like from there. Not get two largely overpriced and very dissimilar machines to compare. f**k it, might as well compare my laptop with a mobile phone, they both go on the internet and display contact lists etc, yet the mobile clearly wins because it does all that in a smaller package.

Had a quick look, seem to have found something along those lines from one of those kind of places on the net. 2.6gb should be done in about an hour or so. I'll have a look at it and see how it goes.

Yeah i know, to be honest i don't think many people get excited about the dell range I will admit to get excited/intrigued when new hardware comes out though, but then i think i like seeing how new technology pushes the boundaries of games and things. Take the new nvidia cards, they're pretty quick, so hopefully we'll have some nice shiny new games with graphics like crysis to play them on soon. Ha ha, yeah. Bunch of guys running around kicking a ball is good for nothing but an excuse to get a few beers in down the pub with my mates. Did i also read somewhere in this topic you tried out hacintosh? I was pondering on giving it a go for using final cut pro, but obviously having limited resources and just upgraded the pc a bit its more financially viable for me to bend some EULA rules. Any good?

I'm speaking about the macs that are readily available to go into a shop and buy. I know the aluminum versions are out, but the white ones are the ones that are mostly in the shops (including the mac shop in leicester). White is the image apple have gone for and unfortunately it sticks. I don't keep up with what the new apples are gonna look like etc, until this thread i didn't even know they were bringing out new ones on tuesday. But from the images on the mac site and the macs you see in everyday life, the white theme is clearly apparant. The only ones that stand out to me as a consumer for being smarter and less gimmicky are the mac pro and the g5's. They look smarter and more robust than the plasticy type ones. Read through the comments on said article? They pretty much sum up what i would say so go have a read. The review got equally expensive windows based vendors and compared them. It also didn't take into account windows machines having low prices and sales to compete with each other, something apple just doesn't do. It was a very poor and biased article designed to make the apples look better.

Woah there, i never said i was basing it on how they were back then, I said i'd been using them since then. The last mac we had in the house was a G5 thing for my dad to do his print proofing and sheet designs on. Last time i saw it he was running tiger or panther or something like that and now he's moved it to leopard. I'm pretty sure thats recent enough to have a valid and well rounded opinion. Okay i admit, the box for it is more of a satin white than shiny. Sorry :$ I've not heard that HD editing can't be done on a pc, and i can't for the life of me see why it couldn't be? Especially with quad cores and over 4gb of ram being the norm for an average gaming pc nowadays. Premiere and vegas can both do HD i believe, so whats the deal with that? I don't see the mac pro coming out with more than 2gb of ram as standard, and for a lot more money. Whats the big difference? EDIT: Okay, just had a look at the apple site and spec'ed up a computer very similar to my own. It costs £2,400. Thats ludicrous money! I know for a fact if that can handle HD editing mine can, yet mine was under £600 including screen etc.

I grew up using macs I still have one of the ones that came with a black and white screen and remember how i was amazed by the after dark screen saver application when i was about 5 or 6. I underwent years of my school life right through to my 18th birthday (finally got my own pc) struggling with incompatible software, doing homework on the mac at home and trying to print it out at school having massive problems getting them to read the damn files properly. Having to learn how to use things like quark while i was at primary school because we didn't have anything as simple as word or publisher. I know exactly what macs can and can't do, and i know which i prefer. I'm not bothered too much by how the operating system looks, i'm not fussed about susceptibility to virus's because i'm usually careful enough to not have any, and i spend my time looking at the screen not the box so i couldn't care less if its shiny and white or (as it currently is) a crappy £15 case with a big fat hole cut in the side for extra fans and a window so i can see what my hardware is doing. I want performance from the hardware for gaming mainly, and i know any pc good enough to game properly is better than any mac for everything else. I also recognise that as apple make their own systems they are going to lose out on hardware sales as soon as a standard family pc version of OSX is released because people won't pay out for crappy hardware in a shiny white box.

It means once they've built up their effectively out-dated machine they install their own OSX on it and ship it out telling users that fitting a new hard drive into the machine and running windows only is bad. They also limit anyone else installing OSX on a standard pc because (last i heard) it was illegal to do so. Other vendors don't do that, they build up a better machine and just whack windows on it with no limitations as to what could be done with it.

You also forgot misinformation. Apple claim their stuff to be cutting edge, though if you crack one open its just standard pc hardware and quite usually its older tech hardware at that, at the minute apple are selling their 242 imacs with ati 2600 graphics cards built in. Thats 2 generations of cards behind everyone else. Apple are quite simply just another vendor, only they limit what can be done with the machine far more than any other companies do. Apple are exactly the same as sony, toshiba, dell, sharp, mesh etc in that all they are doing is getting some parts and sticking them in a box. The only difference with apple is they fill it with their own software and don't allow users to install anything else unless its under their terms (bootcamp etc). 2.8 ghz dual core 2GB 800mhz RAM 320GB hard drive 24" screen All for the tidy price of £1,149 Instead of something like this for cheaper and a much better spec. Apple fail to mention that they use out-dated hardware though and literally provide you with mutton dressed as lamb. Instead of telling you about their things they'd rather slate the opposition.

Its had a new thing presumably welded to it, if it hasn't been heat treated again afterwards then the tubes will be weaker and more likely to crack, thus negating its use in the first place. Its also a very poor design for stopping it cracking like adrians, a TRA style jubilee clip plate bodge would have been more inclined to keep it going and won't weaken the frame before anythings actually started to break.

Having used several versions of both systems, of two machines running the same specs the pc is the more powerful and versatile tool.

I don't know if you read through this, but its of a similar theme and a few ideas were looked at and pointed out. Seems relevant and should be of interest to you if you didn't catch it.

Random Fact: Jarrod has the same computer case as me

Ha ha. He meant to do that. I know i would have done, she was hot. I know i'd have a big smile if that was my plan anyway.

At a guess to the last point, i'd say because your not really watching it. The mind reading guy painted the future after eating the paste stuff the african guy gave him. He even said right before he ate it "this'll let me see into the future?". How is the mother supposed to be the son? But no, the first ones power was super strength, unfortunately as also stated in an episode, sometimes the mind has trouble dealing with big problems or adjustments in life and tries to shut the problems away, which is how split personalities are often formed. She ripped people in half, didn't like it and bang, new personality to take over from the shock.

Ha ha, just a bit. Just a shame its taken 2 seasons before this for some epic, edge of the seat power fighting. Though if they have this in episode four i can't wait to see how the rest of this series is going to be fighting-wise.

I'm actually quite gutted i missed it now. Not been to that tyre school for months now, used to love it there. We'll have to get another one going again sometime soon, preferably with better weather too Pics are good though dude, nice one.

Sorry i couldn't make it. I felt sooooooo ill yesterday/still. Damn alcohol.

I want to play crysis at very high at over 30fps. That'll never happen if i bump it up to a 24" screen.

Moved into my new house and got myself set up a bit better than the crappy 3 foot by 1 foot desk i had in the old one.

Ha ha, f**k off. Come to my house and get me.... P.S. Stu's birthday today, you coming round then out to pubs/clubs?

Garggh, i'm at work till 4.00pm I might have to go in like an hour early and get out at half 2 instead. Bike is broken at the minute though because the front wheel is gay and boumsong robbed my pump so i can't fix it. P.S. Echoes rocks on a friday night

I came in here all ready to put in a sarcastic comment about gays and bumming because of the thread title. The eagerness died in the time it took for the page to load

Yep, there is. Me, boumsong, flipp, mike singleton, ben, petrum, ben lee (doesn't really ride anymore), mod x-lite, munkee.... etc I'm not a student anymore failed the uni course It was shit anyway.

We've got lightsabers on order for some fun, easy limb removals and some of these: if we feel we need to let some anger out

Pretty much. If your looking for an average joe desktop for browsing the internet and reading your emails then you'll find it hard to beat the prices of a fair amount of budget pc's. But as soon as you start looking at something with a bit more grunt behind it then you'll be cheaper to build your own, As i said earlier mine cost about £3-400 and it plays crysis on full settings at a very smooth framerate.