Doesnt need to be £100, just near that price if pos, i could stretch to like £150. Could buy a creative zen sleek full price but itd be so annoying if i bought it then argos brought it back in stock for £110. Anyone know where i can get it cheap apart from there? Are creative better than ipods? Ipod really worth the money? I want more than 6gb really, want all my music on there Are the older creative zen touch players any good? theres some 2nd hand on ebay for around £70, 40gb storage