right i dont know what is peoples problems with zoo pads i run them on a very harsh grinmd and i currently have better wear rate than my friends koxx browns and plaz!! its down to how well you set them up im into manuals gaps ect and i have a tendency to drag the brake when i do things! zoo pads are amazing if you can set them up! koxx browns are immense also so are plaz funnily enough i have a set of each in front of me ! lol oggy