Best set up you can get is: Avid ultimate clipers XTR lever Nokon housing Plaz crv's or heatsinks That set up is beasty, I was runnign it but with Heatsink pads and Linear slic cable and it was one beasty brake. But know i've gone back to a magura as v's were getting on my nerves with cable stretch and just general shit. But if you set them up well enough they will work ace, and when i say set them up well i meen spending like 3 hours setting them up, well i did and i got them so nice it felt like there was no cable.