Biff speaking,  Ok muscle bladi bla, i started workouts last summer now, free weights and the machines, im HEAVILY into it,  improved on my hand cleans, press ups (with a weight belt) dips with weight belt, etc sqauts, overshoulder press, and ive recently reached 420 on my deadlift  not fat of TRA's 500!  all through that year.   I ran EVERYDAY day, i lost 3 and a half stone. and now i do weights. its f**king painful getting fit, you gotta set your mind to it, aswell as your body.   Anyways believe it or not, this was me last year ( in the blue )     This is me now        if your going to for it to increase bike performance forget it, ride to train the muscles needed for riding.  cheers, biff  edit: www.myspace.com/zoobike