Vee Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 Iv riden a ashton 26" justice and love the geo on the fram, just not the design of the frame, are there any stock with pretty much similar geo to thisWheelbase: 1055mm (When measured with Ashton forks, sold separately)Chainstay Length: 380mmBB Rise: 20mmHead Angle: 73 degreesCentre of BB shell to top centre of head tube: 685mm (27")heres the geo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philking Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 BT Raven 8.Wheelbase: 1055-1085mm adjustableChainstay Length: 370-385mm (with rim brake), 365-395mm (with disk brake).BB Rise: 20mmHead Angle: 72 degreesOr similar, the short KOT ms2Wheelbase: Short 1065mmChainstay Length: 385mmBB Rise: 30mmHead Angle: 70.5 degreesCentre of BB shell to top centre of head tube: Short 655mm (25.75"), Long 665mm (26.5")They are the only ones i can think of in modern frames.... or of course you could go for a leesen, fresh products, Iolo etc and get one custom made in the same geo... but then of course they are steel, and i personally wouldn't put money on the design being strong first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 inspired!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vee Posted December 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 hmmm i kinda like the kot but whats with the tail? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 Centre of BB shell to top centre of head tube: 685mm (27")In a frame with a 1055mm wheelbase? Never knew the head tube angle influences the length of the bike as much as that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 (edited) Yeah it had a really long reach for its wheelbase and i think the reach was longer than ali c's 1080 proto.You will never find a frame that will ride the same because little changes always make a difference to the ride, so i would just buy one looks arnt that bad. Edited December 22, 2007 by basher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom3bar Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 You always can choose the Planet-x alibongo framevery very similar geo, and great fun to ride!Tom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vee Posted December 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 haha, i think i might try the ne gu typhoon if itsd a short Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Trials Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 How the hell can you not like the look of the Justice... I frequently lubricate all over mine.However I did nearly buy a GU Typhoon instead of the Ashton, and lastnight (when I thought I'd killed it) I decided it would be the 2008 Typhoon Comp that would replace it (untill the new Justice comes out). GO GO GU! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vee Posted December 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 How the hell can you not like the look of the Justice... I frequently lubricate all over mine.However I did nearly buy a GU Typhoon instead of the Ashton, and lastnight (when I thought I'd killed it) I decided it would be the 2008 Typhoon Comp that would replace it (untill the new Justice comes out). GO GO GU! its abit kiddish lol somehting to do with motorcross styling puts me offis there a new ashton coming out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Trials Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 its abit kiddish lol somehting to do with motorcross styling puts me offis there a new ashton coming out?Ah right, I think that's half the reason I like it! Yeah from what I gather the '07 (the one Ali C used this season) was late in going into production so it's coming out as an '08. Please don't take that as gospel though, I may have picked it up wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.McMillan Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 new ashton is coming son ive heard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 In a frame with a 1055mm wheelbase? Never knew the head tube angle influences the length of the bike as much as that Yep... which is why, unfortunately, there's nothing out there that's similar geo to an Ashton, they all feel super different cos of the head angle... apart from maybe an Inspired as Ali says.new ashton is coming son ive heardWhere from dude? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant Hundley Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 Where from dude?im pretty sure you had it on tarty as coming soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 Yeah, had being the operative word... Anyone waiting for one to come out, I wouldn't hold your breath! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve@banbury-trials Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 copied and pasted from tarty bikes,the echo control 07 ... Geometry (When measured with Echo Urban fork, available separately)Wheelbase: Short 1060mmChainstay Length: 375mmBB Rise: 20mmHead Angle: 72 degreesCentre of BB shell to top centre of head tube: Short 655mm (25.75")best i could find.steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Trials Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 Yeah, had being the operative word... Anyone waiting for one to come out, I wouldn't hold your breath!Whaaat?! I can't actually put into words how that makes me feel. Is there any eta on the new Justice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 (broken record fires up...)maybe a second hand old pure ? look like an ordinary bike - take a seat. geo is around the 1065 mark with a slacker headtube angle but the reach is pretty much the same as the ashton thanks to a large headtube + slightly lower bb - probs around the zero mark. you can get them with vee or magura mounts and they are very strong. they also are pretty light (alot lighter than a tanky ashton) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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