Dave Sutton Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Question is in title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispyboy Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 If bleeded with water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben John-Hynes Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 For god's sake! Stop making stupid topics, use RSQ. If they leaked easy when used properly then Deng wouldn't have made them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 If bleeded with water Water makes no difference to it. Some of them have some swarf still in the cylinder in the lever that kinda rapes the seals - you could run whatever you wanted and some of them would still leak unless you take the seals off and clean out the cylinders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Not sure about this statement,I´m kinda sure it makes difference... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Sutton Posted January 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Water makes no difference to it. Some of them have some swarf still in the cylinder in the lever that kinda rapes the seals - you could run whatever you wanted and some of them would still leak unless you take the seals off and clean out the cylinders. is that a hard thing to do will i have to re-bleed the brakes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 is that a hard thing to do will i have to re-bleed the brakes? If its in the master, then no not hard at all as longas you have the tiniest bit of mechanical know-how. You will have to re-bleed though. BLEED with OIL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Not sure about this statement,I´m kinda sure it makes difference... It really doesn't. The things people have made up about water being the devil's fluid never, ever add up. It seems like someone makes up some random shit about it that everyone then recites whenever anyone asks whether water works or not, then goes on about it until someone points out how it's false. I think the latest one was that 'water's not a lubricant', which doesn't make any sense at all, not least because there's a total of about 25ml maximum of water in your brake (aka f**k all), and most of that's in a plastic tube which doesn't really need much lubrication... BLEED with OIL! Or with a water/anti-freeze mix at this time of year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigamac Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Or just buy a Magura hs33, that are well known and trustworthy.. Simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmackay Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Or just buy a Magura hs33, that are well known and trustworthy.. Simple. +1 And cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I think it´s thicker,so it´s harder for it to leak through the seals... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Water itself won't leak through the seals. It also won't perish them. It also won't 'dry them out' as I've heard people suggest. It really doesn't do anything negative to the seals at all. For the last 5 years I've had a bike with a Magura on it, it's been bled with water and antifreeze, and I haven't ever had a leaking brake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I agree it wont do anything to the seals,it´s water!but I guess it will be gone faster than oil,need to try that to tell though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Water itself won't leak through the seals. It also won't perish them. It also won't 'dry them out' as I've heard people suggest. It really doesn't do anything negative to the seals at all. For the last 5 years I've had a bike with a Magura on it, it's been bled with water and antifreeze, and I haven't ever had a leaking brake. It just seems echo seem to die quicker with water..... Tarty even state that you shouldn't bleed with water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borat Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 It just seems echo seem to die quicker with water..... Tarty even state that you shouldn't bleed with water Sick burn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 It just seems echo seem to die quicker with water..... Tarty even state that you shouldn't bleed with water No, it states that that would invalidate your warranty (although a re-bleed with oil would make that pretty hard to spot, wouldn't it?) - it doesn't say it wouldn't work. Bleeding a Magura with water invalidates the warranty too, according to Magura themselves. Same with the SL, yet Stan's got his tweaked SL running with a water-bleed and it's the best hydraulic rim brake I've ever felt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben John-Hynes Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 It just seems echo seem to die quicker with water..... The 1st gen. ones, yeah. But the new ones seem up to the task. And as said, clean the shit out of it, bleed with water. No problems. But still, get a magura! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Or just buy a Magura hs33, that are well known and trustworthy.. Simple. Ziiiiing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 although a re-bleed with oil would make that pretty hard to spot, wouldn't it? Depends who is looking at it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty190 Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Only bleed Echos with oil. I´ve tried water and it just won´t work as good as with Magura. Maybe some people may suceed with water, but if you want to be on the safe side, use oil with Echo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxie_Monty Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Depends who is looking at it B-B-B-B-BUSTED!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-bird tom Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 (edited) Hs33 for the win . Edited January 30, 2010 by t-bird tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kristaps Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Hs33 for the win . + 4 finger lever blade..and you will have best brakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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