BradJohnson Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 I put a topic on here a while ago asking if i should use rim tar, everyone told me to keep away from it. Today a mate i was riding with give me some tar, its the best thing ever found i would recomended it to anyone i wish i used it before now. why was everyone telling me not to used it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirt jumper jake Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 I put a topic on here a while ago asking if i should use rim tar, everyone told me to keep away from it. Today a mate i was riding with give me some tar, its the best thing ever found i would recomended it to anyone i wish i used it before now. why was everyone telling me not to used it ? it ruins pads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradJohnson Posted May 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 it ruins pads. To be honest i only have maggy blacks in so im not really bothered if it ruins them its made my brake amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukasMcNeal Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 Buy decent pads and get a grind and you won't need tar though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockman Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 Buy decent pads and get a grind and you won't need tar though? +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradJohnson Posted May 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 Buy decent pads and get a grind and you won't need tar though? Why would i do that when i can find tar for free ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirt jumper jake Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 Why would i do that when i can find tar for free ? meh, when you slip on your arse and smack your coccyx real hard youll wish you got a grind and some good pads. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran Morrison Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 To be honest i only have maggy blacks And you wondered why your brake was crap before? Tar is okay, is good to use as a last resort. But the pros of rim grinds are better preformance, work in the wet and dont completely ruin your pad. Plus with a grind you dont neeed to apply it every hour, you just whack it on it should last a few weeks to a few months depending on how harsh. Honestly get a grind man. Plus it looks like crap is on your rim when you use it over time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam n Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 there's nothing wrong with using tar, but don't expect your brake to work in the rain, the best thing you could do is a grind with tar on top, and you won't have to grind so often. it's up to you really, it is a must when using smooth rims really. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran Morrison Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 there's nothing wrong with using tar, but don't expect your brake to work in the rain, the best thing you could do is a grind with tar on top, and you won't have to grind so often. it's up to you really, it is a must when using smooth rims really. +1 on the smooth rims part Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_Trials Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 (edited) it ruins pads. It doesn't. Tar can be good and bad, make sure it's not contaminated, not wet, and you've put the right amount on. Then it's good, failure to do so, it's bad. It's all the people who haven't learnt how to use tar who put it down, they're just inexperienced Edited May 13, 2011 by Jamie_Trials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarathal Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 there's nothing wrong with using tar, but don't expect your brake to work in the rain, the best thing you could do is a grind with tar on top, and you won't have to grind so often. it's up to you really, it is a must when using smooth rims really. So you say the best thing to do is cover the roughness with tar? And fill in the grooves that help to channel water away? Don't listen to this guy, it's been said time and time again that using both a grind and tar at the same time is pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam n Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 So you say the best thing to do is cover the roughness with tar? And fill in the grooves that help to channel water away? Don't listen to this guy, it's been said time and time again that using both a grind and tar at the same time is pointless. no I mean a dead grind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaybs41282 Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 meh, when you slip on your arse and smack your coccyx real hard youll wish you got a grind and some good pads. I was using Monty brake spray instead of tar and this happened to me...2 weeks of not being able to ride because of the pain. Needless to say I used my downtime wisely and ground my rim and invested in some heatsinks yellows! I think tar/brake spray is ok to a point but when you need to start relying on hold and reliable brakes you will need to make the change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandtrialsrider Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 (edited) Tar- for the win! Edited May 14, 2011 by shetlandtrialsrider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 Don't listen to this guy, it's been said time and time again that using both a grind and tar at the same time is pointless. no,it gives you hell a more hold and also improves bite significantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyZoo Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 It doesn't. Tar can be good and bad, make sure it's not contaminated, not wet, and you've put the right amount on. Then it's good, failure to do so, it's bad. It's all the people who haven't learnt how to use tar who put it down, they're just inexperienced no,it gives you hell a more hold and also improves bite significantly. +2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarathal Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 no,it gives you hell a more hold and also improves bite significantly. That's just the tar, not the grind. I'm sure I've read a couple of times it renders the grind useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 I´ve tried smooth rims with tar,grinded wo tar and definately grinded+small dab of tar is the best in every aspect,in dry weather of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nb88 Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 I use a grind on my 26" trials bike with heatsink pads, awesome brake, but really loud. Got some atomz pads on a smooth rim on my 24" as i want a quiet brake with modulation, its not too bad, and I use a bit of tar when I need a better brake, its really good, just doesnt work in the wet, and you only need a tiny bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trials Punk Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 (edited) At least with a grind you can count on its consistancy. You know a grind is going to conistantly wear down, to a point when its time for a re-grind. With tar, there is not a great deal of consistancy, there are too many variables. For example, the temperature on the day you use it, the conditions in which you use it, the location in which you use it. On one day, a smudge of tar on the rim could give you good hold all day. The next day, it could be gone in 10 minutes. You could be pootling around on small obsticals, not really relying on the brake then decide to go for something large, like a drop to rail and have it fail on you. I'd much rather a smooth/ground rim with a decent brake set up over tar anyday! Edited May 15, 2011 by Trials Punk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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