MonsieurMonkey Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Tried searching but couldn't find anything. So sorry if this has been posted before. Anyway, I'm gonna raw the zoot, I believe its anodized so I need to use caustic soda. If all is correct up to now how do I do that. Do I scrub with the soda mix? Do I apply and leave? Or do I soak? I've read that it rapes frames as well. Is that so? Cheers to anyone that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 if it's anodised then yeah, caustic soda is the one to go for. Add the caustic soda to some warm/hot water (the hotter the water, the more powerful it is). I think a toothbrush works well for frames and doesn't melt like paint brushes do. try scrubbing a bit of the frame first, leave it on then wipe off with cold water, this will give you an idea how fast it will work, then go from there really. The frame will look pretty dark at first, but if you wipe it down afterwards and maybe use some autosol that will get it up to a shinier finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Yeah, you apply it and leave for 5 mins or so. Should start to see a reaction. The fumes are pretty horrific too, and it burns like f**k. Wear as much protection as possible. Oh and keep it away from your headset area and BB threads as this happens... I ruined my frame doing it as it destroyed the headtube and couldn't fit any headsets in there. I think I should have used nitromorse as I think my Onza t-pro was the painted version NOT the annodised one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurMonkey Posted November 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Cool, cheers guys. I guess I best be careful. I can't find any confirmation as to whether or not the frame is anodized but I'm pretty sure it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Get a pic up bitchtits 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurMonkey Posted November 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 I'm still in the plotting and planning phase. What should I put my death sauce in? It won't melt a bucket will it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 I put mine in a Tupperware container absolutely fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurMonkey Posted November 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 My sauce seems to have little to no power. Do I add more or be patient? 1 gram per 10 ml is my current potency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 just pour it in there, sod measuring it tried really hot water? Try on some other alloy thing to make sure it is actually working, it could be your frame is painted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurMonkey Posted November 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Lol. It's poured in. I'll give it another bash. I don't think I have anything else to check with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 any old take-away tins? Maybe the area on the dropouts where the paint/anodising has been worn off. You'll know if it is working because it will fizz and stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurMonkey Posted November 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 The shit ain't fizzing when I put it on. Dunno whether to increase the power or change tactics. What's my caustic solution meant to look like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 milky water, should be some pretty toxic fumes coming off and perhaps bubbling a little if you used hot water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurMonkey Posted November 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 It seems to be working. Gonna bring the strength up a little more possibly. It just seems to be owning the aluminium at the moment. But f**k knows. We'll see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 You need to pour the whole tub of it in the container, into the almost boiling water. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurMonkey Posted November 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 It's taking it off. A tiny bit. But at this rate it'll take a week. I've got about half of what I had. Should I throw it all in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Yes! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 with hot hot water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piperfraz Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 I think I should have used nitromorse as I think my Onza t-pro was the painted version NOT the annodised one. What T-Pro was it? I'm thinking of stripping mine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurMonkey Posted November 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Hot water. 500g in 500ml. Nothing. Shit won't even move. I've got a patch about 3cm square done. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Could be that your solution is still too weak, Id have thought 500ml is quite alot ? Or could be that your frame is actually painted not annodised. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurMonkey Posted November 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 It suggests using 500g in 5l so I'm running a concentration ten times stronger I hope it ain't that. I might just give nitromors a go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Probably your best bet. Do a google search about nitromorse though as there are two versions. one with a green top and one with a red top. i cant remember which is which but the newer one is really weak and has as much stripping power as an old guy farting (due to some health and safety bollocks) so if.you can get your hands onto the older stuff you'll be onto a wiener.http://www.stationary-engine.net/forum/showthread.php?t=23805 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurMonkey Posted November 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Awesome cheers. My grandad has just phoned me and he has some. So let's hope its ancient and awesome. Thanks to ye both for all the help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurMonkey Posted November 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 (edited) Nitromors definitely didn't work Oh well, will have to try caustic soda again. Edited November 5, 2011 by MonsieurMonkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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