Yeah, and those things are all real. Fair enough to anyone who wants to sign up to all of that, I believe in everyone having their own choice in what they do so long as they don't harm anyone else. I'd say that I live my life in line with a fairly well adhered to set of 'Christian values' (allowing the sodomy), but I can't be doing with the all-knowing, all-seeing invisible man in the sky who'll strike me down should I commit wrong. It's all just a man made method of control through fear. (and LOLLERZLMFAOROFLkkthx etc to Rainbird for the below . trust you to lighten it up!)