First ride with my PhatPads today, at first I really wasn't impressed, no noise, bite or hold, but they appeared to be get better towards the end, I was told they'd need to wear in but didn't relaise the wear rate was so slow! I've got to move them again though, my wheel wasn't fully in the dropouts when I set them up, so when I rode today my back wheel settled in the dropouts, and now one pads rubs and the other is miles away.