Say that to him then? If there's something second hand and i wont have the money for another week or so, i ask the 'rents to bail me out on special occasions. "hey dad, this really nice frame is for sale and i'd like to buy it. I don't likie asking too much from you but could you buy it for me and i'll pay you back next week when i get paid?" The worst he can say is no. (after the no, shut off and nod occasionally if he rambles on) Or ask said seller to hold it for you, but that doesn't always work hehe. Buying things with your own hard earned is actually wicked, spesh when you're young. I love my leeson to bits because in it's current attire, i've paid for 95% of it, which is sweet.