TGS got boring after a while and I started to ride more natty then i got then neon and loved natty. Then the A3 felt too wrong then got this. But i just need to get my BB7 on the rear now as the BB5 doesn't give enough hold. And the WB is 1020 my A3 with lites was only 1030 so not much different But the A3 with urbans was 1045/50 depending on chain tension.