You wern't seriously expecting an accurate answer were you? Its like asking everyone what flavour crisps are the best, people are gonna say what they think is best, because its their opinion. Different frames have different geo's, and suit different people because everyone is different, like me, I suit a longer bike and I have an 07 echo lite, and I think its the best, because it suits me well, and I like the way it rides, but my mate (BigAl on here) hates the look and feel of my bike, because he thinks its boring and it rides horrible, so you cant really get an accurate answer out of it because everyones opinions will be different on different makes and models. Rant over. Kieran