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also, cant understand how people can say that they dont like this frame because it dosent stand out, seen as its still a proto-got no graphics and just got up 52" cant wait to see the full virson, looks like it needs stiffening up on the front end like . will they be a long and a short this time? or just one geo as this looks like its only around 1030-35

haha what ever then obv im not seeing the big picture, however seen as the video is no longer there I strongly think you attempt to see the big picture aswell. also if there is more than one person you want to send a video of this size, youtube/vimeo etc would be quicker than sending to joe and others so posting this on the world biggest video site is a good idea. and your whay not seeing the full picture either seen as not one person has even said that tf members dont go on youtube and my post isnt about him posting on youtube its about someone posting it on tf when the maker or the video hasent done so himself. Thats pretty much me, hope ive not kept all you youngsters up too late

when did I say anything about him posting on youtubes bad? if he wanted it on the forum . . . . . he would of put it on the forum, if he wanted it on youtube for joe and others to see just to show how hes getting along fair play. seen as hes a member of the forum and dident post it on the forum ? you getting the hint anyone, no? ill help you out a little then. he obv dident want it on the forum and seen as its no longer on youtube either , im guessing by posting someone elses video that they choose not too post them selves kinda dident go down too well

how about just dont wet your sens and wait untill he brings out a video on here, seen as he dident post it, and now taken it off. . . . maybe you might come to think maybe he dosent want you to see this and having a tf account of his own posting a video of him that hes not wanted to put on here is fairly rude if you ask me. finding this video on youtube is all good but keep it to your self and dont post a video that the makers chosen no to do him self "ohh its a video of craig on the new proto onza, hes uploaded it onto youtube but obv forgotten to post it on tf even though both onza and craig are keeping this frame low key, i know what ill do ill post it onto tf im sure they wont mind" 3pages later . . . . . . we get 1 great video taken away from youtube,loads of people allmost in tears about not getting to see cls and me posting this because if he they wanted it on tf they would have put it on. Theres my rant and dont want to start anything but my point is right there in front of you! dont post whats not your to post

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it still going on yeah? im ok to turn up still?

so so good, was that a bunny hop or a tap at the start? its that fast and smooth i cant work out what it is, The videos amazing however there is no feel to that music imo its the kind of thing youd expect to get if you got put on hold by a funeral home. fair play its the best riding ive seen in my life however aint in my top 10 vids due to the music, and before anyone says ohh you must be death or something random Yeah the music fits his riding but if there was a climax somewhere in that video or a change of music to a slightly more heart pumping part of the video. come on you all want it, you all like it, something thats half way threw the video it all gose quiet and the riders stood next to a big wall or big gap and your thinking naaaaaaar he wont do that then the music kicks in and he dose and your like fooooooking hell thats good. to me there wasent a part of this video when I felt like that for a second. non the less the ridings something else edit:were outa sync for me too

well just to be cool as foooook like I am and that, why not just not get either and go for a frame with looks and strenth. zhi z3 2009 <<<<<<<<<< look into that my friend before you get a eachoooo pile of wank the echo dont even look nice.

cant of been, ive never met this guy in my life

what a rider yoru well smooth, dunnno what the hell your wearing but i blame that !!!!!! looked like a tasty line, again shame about the stem but your not thee first and sure as hell wont be the last

Iv heard about this place, where abouts is this leeds?

from the websites ive looked at my geo is right ( trials forum, t-uk and some spanish ones) ive also found out that the stey lenths are 375. so the only diffrence so far is the head angle thats like 1degree so yeah not im sat here thinking where the hell do people get there ideas from that the 06 rides nicer, all i can put it down too is frame shape, but id rather have the 07 just for the booter edit: weight too

only asked for the long, and ill put the geo of the 07 up seen as its not that Versions: Craig Lee Scott 2006 Wheelbase: 1045 mm, Chainstay length: 375 mm BB height: +55 mm BB shell width: 68 mm Headtube angle: 71 deg 2007 Python. wheelbase: 1045 stey lenth:380 bb: +55 headangle: 72. still love you love, so theres 5mm and 1 deg difference, and see as though I like the 07 better just wanted to know and now i do thanks liam

good to see him riding his home town again!!!! weird to see him riding leeds , loved that its cool even on the gay bike, poss the roady made it better? cant get my head around it all haha fixed gears are for fags! you have to keep pedaling threw everything thats just pointless when you could just do one kick and your there anyway on a normal bike. and when you jump you have to keep going too or when you land youll die not for me anyway

not really helping me on the geo there. seen as there both the same wheel base its not going to feel much longer. the steys might make it ride dif though. anyone know the exact geo of a thong 06?

yeah but thats not what im asking Im just wondering geo wise really.

yeah, well there relatively new frames so we shall see however having 5< of these frames crack in the same place gives you a slight idea of where the weakest part of this frame is, also given your making a street frame soon< that maybe you could adapt the drop outs in some way even to make us feel better, and my ice is still going simply because its sat in my shed cool

not 100% sure on the geo of an 06 but as far as I know its like the same lenth and i know thats a gay reason to think there the same but would just like to know... Is it just the looks thats not the same? NOTE: I am only asking about the geo so dont give me the 07 has a booster or something random Only really asking because everyones like the 06 zoo ohh yeah think ill have a wank over it, then if you say 07 zoo people are just like ewww. but ive had both and ridden them the same granted the 07 feels a little heavyer and poss slightly higher up. EDIT: 07 geo, 1045 wb 375 stey +55 bb 72' head angle

I heard dave m takes edit: better not say that or ill get more warn for nothing! :/, from andy green loverly video!! mint riding loved it

well only because it had flowers on, was wondering how cool it would be to have my 07 frame back, then realised that the guy was selling it with brandnew sfk bb in it so guess what. . . . yupp! nuff said

lol well this topic isnt a massive dig at onza! but ohh well and a 24 would be kool

haha yeah that might be a little helpful seen as this is a dig at the dropouts, but I dont think the welds weak, however where the frames going with the offset steys itd be a b*****d to get right in there to weld, so again I blame the dropout shape for this as it is putting urber strain on that bottom stey and around that weld area, however I wouldent put it down too the overall quality of the welding rather a design fault.

I 100% agree, however if onza strenthend the dropouts as you said would give you a little more time with a working, non cracked/snapped frame. so question time, would you rather:?: a, have a standerd pro series onza frame that cracks in say just under the warrenty period so around 5months. b, have say if this was to happen a pro series mk2 that did not crack in this place but might go lets say on the bash mounts however that frame lasted 10 months. if you think about that question in a onza riders point of view(someone who really likes this frame and dosent want to change frame) somewhere in that question youd be saving 150 pounds! again IM NOT SAYING EVERY ONZA FRAME WILL CRACK, however as my points gettting threw and clearly states in the topic title room for imporvement. thats all this thread is its not a dig at onza, they have 5 of the nicest looking, nicest geos, nicest choice of frame with geos suitable for all types of riding and abuilitys. however if this was to prove to be a problem, and onza could make a MK2 frame id pay 50 pounds more for a stiffer/stronger frame! im currently waiting for the one im riding to crack and its not the best feeling trying not too and thinking to your self I better check it tonight to see if it has

Well done with that . Not a massive fan of the vid im afraid but youve gotta have one bad comment . your ridings good and your taps are nice:) just got a wee bit bored threw out the video sorry! ill be sure to keep my eye out for you and mroe videos

Iv not had a go at the tentioning system, as its easy and all that however,I have had a go at the way this system is affecting the drop outs in a point that the steys are off set witch is the reason for these to crack, echo dropouts are fine! however again so is the older dropouts with snail cams. as its allready been said there is most likly 1000s of these made so trying a gusset would be the best option for now, and as my post in the topic of cls helping sort out a street frame with onza I would strongly recomend they solved a little bit of strenth out as its all coming down to tgs even though thats nothing to do with a frame cracking! frames will get strain with street or natty. every one sees your point there is only a few frames cracking, so ill leave this topic untill we see more go. however onza have seen there frames crack now! even on there world champ! so even if ive made a few people pissed off they might just think to them selves ohh maybe well try strenthen these up, or maybe well try cnc a new dropout that dosent have offset tubes, because thats the reason these will go! because its getting strain on the dropout thats only welded slightly to the corner of a tube . bump this topic in a month see what happens, seen as me and hunter got ices as they first came out really well see! note: im not saying there like koxx and just all die on anyone, all im saying is there is room for improvement!