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OK NOW ALOT OF LADS HAVE BEEN GIVING ME SHIT FOR THIS SO HOPEFULLY THEY WILL SEE THAT ITS NOT JUST ME AND IT IS HAPPENING AROUND BRITAN, ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SAY FOR A POINT IF YOUR NOT A HEAVY RIDER ECT AND YOU WAS TO CRACK THE FRAME OUT SIDE OF THE WARRENTY POINT YOUD BE PRETTY PISSED! AGAIN ITS ME APARENTLY BEING A DICK BUT MY POINT IS. . . ONZA ARE LETTING CLS HELP OUT WITH THERE NEW STREET FRAME, THESE DROPOUTS ATM ARE REALLY GOOD HOWEVER CANT BE RIDDEN ON STREET AT ALL! OR THEY WILL DIE, MY POINT IS HUNTER ISNT A BASHER, BUT IF THERE OPENING THERE MARKET TO BASHERSTREET RIDERS LIKE ZOO DID WITH CRAIG THERE FRAMES WILL DIE ON THE DROPOUTS! SO WILL SOMEONE BACK ME UP ON THE SNAILCAMS ON THE 2010 FRAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EDIT: if onza could see the point! or are thinking of this atleast let us know and ill stop again like hunter said IM NOT RIPPING ONZA, AGAIN THERE THE BEST FRAMES OUT HOWEVER THIS IS A FAULT AND NO ONE LIKES A WEAK FRAME and as for basher guy who just loves trying to prove me wrong on this just because he cant work a snail cam. there will still be 4 other mod frames with the other dropouts anyway. so whats the big deal, plus your 2010 frame isnt in productionyet?!

thats the one! its a bit boring learning it if your with other riders, so this is one you can do at home! however once you get your ballance you then can learn to backhop. but I also think aswell as learning to hop on the back wheel, its also a good chance to learnt to ride up walls, find a wall a small one to start off with and ride up and see if you can ride your bike up this. there is not a certin way of doing this as youll learn to make the move your own way. once you do this you then can learnt to bunny hop walls. (do this to bash plate/ring and then progress to just using your tyres)

Thats some pretty swanky looking grass youve got there danny! the green looks ace on it like matches the blue! and correct me if im wrong but the because simple, dosent say simlpe on your old frame it says simpie. so was that the same frame popie rode in get1 ?

erm a bit too much in the edit! the ridings good but that song and the edit made me want to turn it off, if he wasent that good part 3 erm well yeah id not even knowen there was a part 3! his ridings mint his up to backs are really good. his gaps are big too

to be fair, Tuk used to be a very good shop to order from!!!! just as dans got outa the sport and cba anymore. it shouldent really still be on the net, or even a shop in its self its just a shit load of stuff in his guarage now!!. but i never had a problem with trials uk even when everyone said dont go there hes a scammer he used to pick up the phone to cocky . but its not worth it now, tarty are the boys to talk too, if not why dont you try a zhi hub, there all the same? and it would be cheeper, think there are people on here that would get you one pretty cheap

Iv allways wanted to ask, but tarty arnt the people too ask however still worth a go. why are deng making wank rim colours this year. ok the new blue is ok as its faided, the greens orite ish but dont see many nice looking green bikes, reds a little outa date,gold erm yeah its gold, and black and silvers just that! Its only me saying this but they should take a chance and try out a random colour in there range!. do the urban rims still come in pink and all that?

as gay as this is going to sound, for some reason I dont think thats 57 at all. last time I was stood next to a 57 it was sholder on me and im 6ft3 your like 5ft6-7 and your sholders whey over that. probibally wrong and dont want to start anythink with it. haha your lucky today anyway first time ive been arsed to comment on your video and not just called you a fag on msn . love your style but as lewis said save all of your massive clips and make a epic video!

your not looking at my point at all though your just thinking ohh its just some tgs guy ill have too be a dick about his point Im not saying everyone is going to snap there frames due to these dropouts, however ill put money on street riders snapping them! its a mint way to tention your chain yeah, but the offset idea is imo the reason they will die, and you can see my point as i can see yours, but as my other topic says well see wht happens as time gose by, however! if this is going to be a tgs frame (INCH GRABBING!!!!) its going to get used and abused, and zhi tentioners or monty ones hold tention. im sure if your NOT going to ride tgs you can get a skull or somethink and knowing all the tgs riders up near me are with me on this one, im not going to give up saying just run snail cams and dont offset your steys onza. not for all your other bikes but for a street bike atleast! I know atleast 3 riders that allmost got a ice frame but they wont simply because they think that they will kill the dropouts. . . . . .

Ill happily stick by saying THE SAME DICKHEAD THAT SNAPPED HIS FRAME ON THESE WONDERFULL ANTI SNAILCAM SHITTERS THAT THE BOLT COMES LOOSE ON ALL THE TIME ANYWAY The same dickhead who most street riders will agree its not all about kool your drop outs look or some fag that cant handle the effort of setting up your wheel with snail cams! MY POINT BEING THAT IF THIS IS A STREET FRAME, DESIGNED BY A STREET RIDER WHOS GOING TO BUY IT? SOME NATTY FAG? NO STREET RIDERS and as by that its going to get ridden HARD! like a bitch. Q: how many people would go with out these shitter dropouts for a frame that wond snap? or Q; how many people want to have these dropouts on the street frame and snap there frame? because if street riders are on them THEY WILL SNAP! I ride my bike alot smoother than most out there! and seen as all the other pro series are going to be with the other type of dropout you have the choice!. not starting anything here, but for the sake of changing this one thing on there frame they could make thee best street frame ever with this rider!!

Do I even have to say what I wanted to say? haha, joe knows what I think should happen to the new frame, and for those who dont two words, snail and cams!, If your going to make this frame street baced, I think you might want to take that into action imo! and yeah longer sounds fun! onza are by far theeee top trials company around atm and this is just taking them to the next levle, as much as onza will no doubt hate me I think this is a turn around for trials as it stands there are no street frames on tarty bikes and onza price range is spot on along side thee other frames too!! but as Mat said to me other day on the bike, onza have all these frames coming out but there rims and stems are wank!, I like the stems however theres not alot of choice in rims or anything, maybe start on more parts side? as from the quality Id rather have onza parts over other makes, Ive had thee old t master hub silver one, since I started and its still perfect!!

what the hell thats like the biggest video on vimeo, and am not talking about lenth!!! on a lighter note, moosic were tasty, and on a even loverlyer note, and alex you know im saying this in the nicest of ways the guy on the zona is a microphone!

What happens around 1:25 unless it was my laptop looks like a weird affect , also your so foooking smooth and dont even look to put any effort in at least try to make it look hard so the rest of us look good love your riding, really liked you on the isis so its a tad weird watching you on this bike ill make my mind up what I think you suit the most when your next video is done. p.s your trials park looks like youve built it really well some of the pics of your pallets and things you made looked like they might collaps but after seeing that I think youve done a really good job! just gose to prove there are no exuses for people who complain they have no where to go, a little bit of work and few days off the bike youve got a gem of a riding spot. really well done! could you trials tube it just so we can download it nice and easy, my laptop dosent download off vimeo for some reason after it got fixed . rockman have two of the smoothest riders in the uk, if not thee smoothest! maybe a joint video seen as you live so close?

all im saying is even on a good bike you your still a begginer- and imo if you start from the basics not only when you up grade your bike youll get better again, you will also learn to appreciate your bike. ive seen too many spoilt brats on here for anyone to knock that comment . if you got a bird, you could learn the basics then upgrade it however much you feel , however if you was to get a rip theres not alot you could do with that when you gets better as its got two front wheels. and youll just kill the back wheel on bigger moves. I dont think id be looking for a new one if it was me id be looking on pinkbike/ebay for one someone has had and dosent ride anymore and got for a t-pro or blade over one of these frames.

Not sure what the setup is, however jonny mc's front vee is amazing! Its not loud like most, its not scarily bitey either, but you can trust it and it dosent slip at all and works in any weather. not sure on the vee setup its self as looks like some halfords bodge, however hes running rock pads on a light grind. if i went vee that would have to be my setup deffo.

hot guy! edit was nice and chilled, not as good as the riding, your getting a whitfield style! boi. music dident really go at the start, but got better later in the edit, 3min 21secs the music imo fit really well, loved the video, think itll be a dieing shame if you snap that frame your taps are looking good aswell dont seem to be trying when your doing them now, time to push your self mr!

Im not really seen a load of these bikes and correct me if im wrong, however disent the rip have 2 20" wheels and the bird have a 19" back, so just for that reason id go for the bird. because your a beginner your speck dosent matter 100% and if you can learn the tricks as youve seen in the above post, then you can mod your bike as you wish to suit your self and your style of riding. also even if there is a price differance the rip will last you untill youve got your moves then youll want a new bike, the bird will last you as long as you like as even I would be happy on one of them

COME DOWN WITH ME mr

half price, but thats not my point. cba with this now, your not seeing what it is im saying, its nothing to do with the warrenty they give you. yeah its to do with the riding, however most bikers dont exactly not use there bikes, theres room for improvement imo and this is a weak point in the frame imo so why not just take it and think how you could maybe change this. ok question, would my frame of snapped then if i dident have these dropouts and off set steys(just standerd dropouts with snailcams? id bet a pound to a peice of jizz id be still riding it hard as id like whey after my warrenty your so botherd about :/ thats me in this topic now, all the above my point rape me as you like but as i said give it 5 months and ill be the one smiling, unless they fuiger a way of maybe improving the frame.

I have got a replacement ice from joe im not that botherd about that, the onzas have only been out for a good few months now, maybe my posts a little too early. however in 5 months time, I hardly think its going to be me whos in the wrong!

Im not being a willy or anything, onza atm are the best frames on tarty imo! and could with a slight modification be the strongest and mose reliable frame on there aswell but if no one says anything like this most likely would just never get anythink done. it is a problem imo that they are, as if jacks gone threw one being as smooth as he is, theres gunna be allsorts of people go threw them, I have yeah i miss a few sidehops over half of the people whos got a onza are gunna do the same!!!!! and as far as i know im one of the smoother ones . Im not having a dig at onza them selves joes given me a great service and seems really nice

jacks a really smooth rider, so dont take the bashing side of it, my frame is scratched, you can crack a drop out from more than mis judging a sidehop so dont blame a move on why its cracked.. . carthys had cracked in two places then nice to know, his frame has not one scratch on it, but yet its got a crack in the stey . im not having a go at this, I love my frame however youve gotta be thinking if this problem still gose on, the lovery 1000! frames youve sold 700 of them might die! there dosent seem to be anywhere else on the frame it could go, so maybe strenthen up the steys in the future?

RIGHT, before I get any shit for this, im not trying to put people off onza as I ride one and think its the best frame in the world however! There is a problem with the frames, and imo onza have f**ked them selves in the arse! There idea of the dropouts/tentioners is all well and good however they crack! where the stey hits the dropout! so I was then led to beleive it was my fault for my frame to crack as id not heard of anyothers cracking, so I just got on with it, then I heard danny swindles ice went in the same place, so I then just guessed maybe its just the ices, then today ive seen carthys triad proto, and limey20" has also cracked. so had a look on the onza website. all the pro series have these dropputs even the stock, so if there all going to crack in this area, what can they do about it?

Yeah just dropping this comment in, most of the riders and other videos on youtube, are getting muted! so theres alot of people who are uploading what ever videos they have onto vimeo and other sites, just so others can see with sound! also vimeo you can download there videos so it works out better aswell

Thats A fair comment. not everyones the same! damon on a whole not boring to watch at all imo some of his edits are as you say more tgs using his own style of music however pushing the sport non the less. being himself.