ghostrider88

It isn´t DD It´s purple sky. http://www.tribalzine.com/IMG/jpg/Koxx_Purple_Sky_2010.jpg

Like it´s a bad thing Looks very clean,isn´t the front end too low though?

+70mm BB?

And that frame is actually yours?I would like to see it builded

Tarty guys said something like this,so it´s probably truth.

I actually like that white frame(might have something to do with the V-brake posts),what was the price?A I can´t find the pricing at his webpage anymore.

That´s right.Echo,Zoo,Adamant and czar were all Deng´s brands,yao zhi used to ride for zoo,but then he decided to run his own business under zhi brand,which is pretty much based on copying echo products.In most cases.

This was the problem I guess.

That´s unlucky mark

yes,you just need to do small modification to the refills.

I wrote it above,it´s limey 1,not 2.

This might be true,but I really can´t say if it is,mostly because teeth of the freewheel are in the centre of the freewheel,not sticking toward the BB like chainring is.If chris or ali could/want try his saints on some different bike,it would be very helpfull.

I know what you mean,but there´s adapter for vees,so they can be fitted on every frame actually.If there was something simmilar for cranks,it would be great,but I don´t think it´s possible.But I´m no engeneer,so who knows?

No,I don´t have those cranks,but If there´s 1mm space with 18t freewheel on both of my frames(ozonys(freewheel actually rubbed a little with 127mm BB) and pitbull 2006) it´s highly unlikely that with 22t it would be better.

Pro 2 (first gen) is fairly old product isn´t it?Back then there was higher demand for high quality and reliably engaging hub...I know it wouldn´t be problem for them to produce those parts.But the marker for those parts and the hub especially is smaller than it used to be back in the day.

yes,even wider tire(der kaiser) fits and yes,with 22t chainring you wouldn´t even be able to spin the cranks.

In praxis they don´t.

lets just say you have fourplay and echo pure,they have exactly the same cs lenght,but one uses 26inch wheel and one uses 24inch wheel.Which one will have more space for tire/chainring?Got it now?

Damn dude,if you have 24inch wheel and same cs lenght,of course you will have more space

You are scarily optimistic when you think they actually produce trials version of those cranks or 116mm pro 2.I wish you were right though.

why do you think the most frames have jokes so wide that those cranks wouln´t fit?If I could advise you,it may have something to do with the geometry and tire clearance.+If you ride trials for 17months,what do you know about trials evolution?Who are you to say what´s better?It up to you what do you find more interesting/better,but I´m entitled to the very same thing.And again,tell me where I said something negative about street trials or any style of trials riding?Wake up kid.

Thank you

That´s why I said I think and exactly,it has geo as inspired fourplay thus the same cranks might fit?I really don´t know why would you continue trying to prove me wrong when we agreed before here that both sides were partly right...