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Even practised the victory wave. nothing left to chance. Good on you lad you have worked hard for it.

See new topic with closer directions Doh!

Hi Team, Entry form for last round of the Scottish Championship. Awards for end of year will be presented after this event. I think we will have a English contingent invading across the Border and you are all welcome. Please enter what class you like. Thanks to Cal and Mark Herd for setting this out, and show your support by coming along. Please let me know you are coming by EM entry forms in. Happy to do, pay on the day as well. 2016 Newcastleton entry.docx

Hi Team, Entry form for last round of the Scottish Championship. Awards for end of year will be presented after this event. I think we will have a English contingent invading across the Border and you are all welcome. Please enter what class you like. Thanks to Cal and Mark Herd for setting this out, and show your support by coming along. Please let me know you are coming by EM entry forms in. Happy to do, pay on the day as well. 2016 Newcastleton entry.docx

Kinda took my reply out of context, but I guess that is what happens on forums. It never was about me it was always about running a club in Scotland to help get Scottish trials running. I don't ride or take anything from it other than a personal joy of trying to do something for someone else. I have the right to an opinion on things I have been involved with. And to make that statement that i think i was the only one at the AGM is just insulting. So when it goes to that then there is no more point in discussing as you have obviously formed an opinion of my motives. I do understand the communication and listening to what others want, but still disagree about the club/business (money aside). I should have stuck to my guns and stopped, but that's me. please take the tyke trial club or what ever follows and I wish who ever runs it the best. If trials is on its last legs then so be it, I stood up tried my best and if it looks like I was wrong then at least I tried. I am done with the politics and lack of concerted effort. If the few that still do step away then like tyke trials, its is done for the UK.. the few are getting fewer

Bob Macgregor trials academy near Glasgow. Pay and ride and camp. Toilet facilities on site.

Good luck guys especially Will in his first one, wish we were there. Next year hopefully.

Me again, in the dark dark wood in a dark a dark place. He is a legend in street trials and occasional comp, which he added so much laughter and fun on the day. I have met him a couple of times and a nicer more down to earth human being with his life style I have yet to meet. He spent a great amount of time with the young kids and some older fans when he has appeared, even when he was badly broken. You don't get to where he is without a huge amount of dedication and bike skill (and balls). Brilliant that he can make a living out of what he does.

Xmas sorted for everyone on here then.

Pallets are always the go to wooden obstacle. If you can get the blue type(not always blue) as these are much heavier and tend not to fall apart. You can then alter heights and angles using some bracing and screws. If you are around Edinburgh and we have a garden and barn full of obstacles.

If you think I do it because I love telling everybody how busy I am then you are very much mistaken, I like you have done it for years and see how much effort people put in to the benefit of the club. I only mentioned I am busy because 1 I am and 2 more importantly I have no interest in this side off it, the bit I enjoy is setting out the trials. I could easily walk away last year when we were down to 8 riders, because believe me being busy is what you do when you work for yourself and productivity is all about hard work and being efficient in my work processes. I don't know your working back ground and perhaps you have the privilege of working in a well organised more effective business. But I don't work weekends because that is for family and work for myself for a lifestyle not wealth.. Mark is full of great ideas and it would be wonderful if he offered, but I guess like most of us he has a busy life outside trials. As you hopefully you get from my posts that if its not fun, with a bit of banter then I will not do it as I guess this is what this thread started about, people with their own agendas making it not fun. Your points are taken and listen to as I do at every trial we run and hopefully improve on. I disagree that clubs should be run as businesses and that they should be run as a group of liked minded people having a good day out or just with their kids. (I may be wrong) But I am one of a few offering up some suggestions here to try and help. I am out of this thread as it does not have anybody else standing up and saying yup count me in not for Scottish club but to keep trials in middle Englandshire going, but will read on with interest if anybody offers to help or sort out all that has been discussed. i will carry on developing Scottish trials with the enthusiasm of like minded club members and even take a lot of what Mark has offered and see if someone in the club will use it to benefit the club. .Good luck to what ever comes out of the ashes of the Tyke trial club and if we can help then as most of those that do know we will. Mark could you EM me the questionnaire that you used last time and I will hand it out at our last club trial with maybe some extra relevant questions to our club and see what we get? Thanks Ahh just noticed the TT logo, I have apologised.

He started it in a playground voice. (just a joke) What is happening to you Ross, please not maturing? Oh sh*t is that baiting again. I know and please accept my apology. Anybody is welcome to a comp dressed how they like and have done over the years. We still have the pics of the wife beaters and the nipple incident between Cammy and Stuart. It was for a bit of a laugh but TT has been the better man not to take the bait. So again sorry and we are all good?

Got your lycra on?

Just watched the video on the open trial. Great fun it looked. Is there a reason it hasn't happened again. Maybe it needs to be run at a bigger cycling event, and that would give access to much more people on different bikes. We have been asked to run comps at bike festivals next year, maybe just do it in that format as an trial and see what happens.

Wow, Just had to take a breath now. Isitafox. They are talking bollocks. the official line as far as I know is its not an Olympic sport so that I believe is there legal stand point. But then neither is Speedway or Downhill? they even withdrew the team managers funding two years ago. Barry Gowthorpe has spoken with them over the last few years and has got no where. They cant even supply THEIR kit to the trials team properly each year and that's all they have to do. Don't get me started on how bad mannered and ignorant they are towards the trials riders when you get to the comps. I've seen it first hand and have told them. Don't have the decency to even apologies. Mark lots of great points. But on a personal point I spend a great deal of time, money and effort to keep the Scottish club running and I only do it because of my enjoyment of it all. I am lucky enough to work for myself and can afford the time and cost, but I have a business to run, a house and a family and very occasionally a day to myself! I dislike social media but see its uses, so therefore I have no interest in it. So someone else needs to do it all or as in the last six years it doesn't get done, I cant do everything and even hate doing all the paperwork around each event, but my wife does help a lot with that. (this is not a moan just a statement of facts) If everybody did a little then perhaps thing may change, but as I have stated over the last 30+ years of doing club work its always just the few and a lot of talkers and whiners. Not the case up here, but as it grows it may turn into whats happened in Tykes? ( I have been studying dictatorship in my spare time and so it shouldn't) BTF doesn't have the finances especially now as entries are at an all time low. But even if it did they cant even get someone to volunteer to do the website, which probably wouldn't take to much time each year. Ben S did a great job, but his life changed and he stopped riding and couldn't offer the service he gave it over the years. The Scottish club has always had an email address biketrial@tiscali.co.uk. I have asked since the club started for someone with an interest and some knowledge to do a website. still nothing. Motorbike trials need bigger venues, different type of terrain and make noise so your point is perhaps not like for like with cycle trials. I have done motor trials since I was 14 on and off so do have a valued interest in both. Land is also becoming an issue for moto trials. As for demos, i run a business and understand your points. maybe close this point for here. But yes the rugby boys do ware clothing on top as I thought most would do, Moto trials riders get away with it and I don't see the forums burning, only opinionated street riders, who as far as I can see have their own dress code but I don't have an opinion on that. Bike trials is a volunteer run club and you do make it sound like its running a business in your last point. The survey was done and I don,t know what the uptake was but I bet it wouldn't have been much if TB hadn't been generous enough to offer an incentive. I even remember someone on here complaining about it being not worth his time to fill the form out. It is a club and as such everybody should have their say, but as we have seen cant even be bothered to do that. I have never had this situation in any other club I have been in, it maybe the a sign of the times but I doubt it. The few will plod on and with the help of club members adapt trails into the future. I/we are trying up here and if it works it works, if it doesn't then at least we tried. I will find something else to help with or maybe I have been wrong all those years take up watching more telly and drink more, ignore my kids, maybe even golf. Nah just joking.

What to all four names or just Gordon cause you owe him a tenner?

That's what we need. Is that Ben, Duncan and Danny!!! Gordon says you owe him a tenner.

Hi Team, Getting EMs about the final round, Just waiting on final details and I will get entry forms and details asap. Seem to have a bit of Englandshire interest as well, all are welcome. Primary to Elite sections, usually three laps of six now a days as now we have enough observers, but letting have some have a day off would be appreciated. Try to get some pics of new venue as well.

Here is Si's edit of all the GB team in action.

Simon has posted up video on youtube under Simons trials videos of all the riders that took part. Will link it in here tonight. Ace event with good sections and good organisation. More beer and fun than previous years. Well done to all riders old and new and especially Charlie Rolls and Ben Savage who won their classes. What happened on tour stays on tour.

Just thanks Ben, so many of these street videos are just so boring watch but that was fun, massive skill level and great editing. That coming from the comp man!

Just like a finger of fudge. Yeah you youngsters will need to all look it up. Its not what you perverts think, it was a real advert back in the day.