TrialsRob

Ride would be horrible too, would feel like you were hanging off the back of the bike. There is no law saying you have to ride trials on a proper trials bike either, granted it won't be as easy but that's the price of versatility. http://www.ns-bikes.com/holy-2,54,pl.htm Something like that might make a nice compromise, perhaps with a more trails oriented bar/stem.

Can't help on Jobs but I will say Bristol is a cracking place to live, very open, lots of green parks etc. Clifton/hotwell/stoke bishop are all nice places to live in the center, gets rapidly more grim the further south you go.

Aren't their laws like that here? ensuring your bike has a full compliment of working brakes, reflectors etc

So the System is killing the minds of our children. And you're the only one smart enough to see it? and try as you might, few others have the wits/intellect/clarity to accept it, you stand alone against the unending might of your enemies. Today a hero is born.... [see my earlier post] Psychological games/constructs are fascinating to study, the above could be described as a coping mechanism to deal with a perceived need to feel smarter/more useful in society/respected/etc. Something that I imagine is becoming more common today due to the perceived insignificance of any one person within society as a whole. Goverments naturally become the focus of these 'games' because of their size and complexity, and the power they have. Its easy to see evil/malice/mystery in a system you don't understand.

http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/components/grips/product/review-esi-grips-chunky-silicone-grips-11-45221 I use these, I have the thin version and despite being 'thin' they are very comfortable. I suppose they are foam grips, but I'm not sure what they are like compared to normal foam rubber grips as never I've used them.

That's the whole point, By adopting the position of a conspiracy believer you put yourself in a position of intelligence, you feel you are above other lesser people because you can see through the lies/deceit where few others can. Having people deny your beliefs may even strengthen them, after all if you are right then their refusal to see the truth only proves how much smarter/better adjusted you are than them.

Don't despair Dave, In order for smart people to exist, there must also be stupid people.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=why-people-believe-conspiracy-theoies "The lure of conspiracies is that it makes the believer special, in his own eyes and the eyes of many. He knows the secret, he has the inside scoop. It's a matter of having inside information nobody else has, unless they are wise enough to be in on the matter"

You may well be right, it had been warrantied once already. However last I heard it was still going strong despite being many years old now. I'm glad to hear the pro2 isn't as bad as I had thought, though I'm not sure I'd like to try hope again till the pro2 is no more, or atleast gets new freehub design.

We're going to have to agree to differ then, the only hub I've used that has more drag than a pro2 was a king

Is that compared to trials hubs? I was thinking more of the normal mtb hubs I'd been using.

That hub is absolutely as hope intended, unfortunately. I am not a fan of the pro2 freehub, tonnes of slipback [i believe that is what you are getting at in the vid] and very draggy.

Indeed, most of the time they're fine. But when they aren't they are often fiddly and expensive to fix, think about if a seal in the caliper went, that'd mean buying seals, bleedkit, pads, rotor, oil and then the faff of sorting it all. Ok that's an unlikely mode of failure, but I think its generally true that hydros are more expensive and time consuming maintain, to a point where older hydraulic disc brakes just aren't worth bothering with given the expense and work involved to get them back to factory fresh performance.

Hydro discs are a pain in the arse to fix/service compared to cable, on that basis I'd always go for cable.

I wouldn't loose too much faith in 24s, now that I'm running a frame with a more streety [ie shorter] top tube length and wheel base I couldn't be happier

Pretty much yes, what I wanted from the zoot was a bike for really technical street but it was just too trials orientated in geometry. As you say the trials stuff was a breeze on it but even the most basic street stuff felt unnatural on it. I am however an amateur at both though.

Cut off your genitals and shave your head, its all basically dead weight riding trials.

I know its not really trials, but heck it rides far better than zoot ever did.

I recently bought an onza zoot, but just could not get on with the length of thing, and rather than spend a tonne on a custom built frame I took a gamble on trying out an mtb frame that was being sold off brand new for one quarter RRP @£72. Specs are Fireeye shortfuse 360 24" specific frame, some semi decent welgo pedals, tnesile optimum cranks, Rest of the parts are off the 2013 onza zoot. I'd like to hear your opinions of it as a streety trials bike, its 990mm wheel base and has quite a low BB (how does this affect riding?). Having given it a quick ride it feels great, hops and spins very nicely. It does ride quite twitchy though so I'm considering a identiti rebate fork @ 425mm length to give me a bit more confidence on faster moves but with any luck I'll adapt to the current fork.

I'm glad someone gave him a bike to keep him busy, otherwise he'd be out killing people for shits and giggles

He's limited to purely making the plastic parts, he can't make an entire working gun from a 3d printer, basically just accessories.

torx bolts can be a pain in the ass if you don't have a set of T-handled torx keys

Very insightful replies, I will try out a 90mm 35deg stem, a bit further up the steerer tube for now.

I have a stock onza zoot and at the moment I'm ready struggling to manual it, and I'm wondering if it is just me or if its my bike setup that's at fault. I'm a beginner at both street and trials so it could well just be me but I can manual mtbs fine, and back hops are fine too on the zoot.. The zoot does have a heavy front end by trials standards as its got steel forks/bars giving it 7-800g more weight than a more average set up, is that enough to weight the front end down?