i have used about 5-6 pairs of v8's as well, aweful things... pins fall out, in no time and you dont even have to hit them. bearings are rubbish. they start wobbling after 3 weeks or so (i know you can service them but thats hastle) and they are just rubbish, RUBBISH. i brought a set of v12's bout 3 weeks ago, i have tried most other sets of pedals around, and i can safely say v12's have been the best. dont waste your money on v8's in my opinion.... save £15 or what ever and get v12's. be cheaper in the long run.