just to clear up, cause im sure fred will be telling everyone trying to make me look as cuntish as possible... i did not say EVER "i hope ben savage falls off" or anything to that effect. all i said, when ben gapped to hook... was "f**k me did you see how much his front wheel folded" he had fallen off and fived the section before i said it aswell so its not even like i put him off. sorry if dave, phil and myself had to much fun for your liking fred... oh well... thanks for helping us get our bikes back. some people need to learn to have a laugh... *no one who camped comes into that* oh and dont worry, i wont be going next year... mainly cause i cant be arsed with freds attitude. was a well good few days though...