i'm no bitch, bitch! Onza in general are ok i guess, i mean i have only just changes to a python from a t-mag after 7ish months and that frame was awesome, headangle was a bit iffy but i rode it well. It's onza hubs, cranks etc i have issue with, not the best quality and odd sized components etc annoys me. but the zoot looks ming, in my opinion anyways. sorry Dan