N Roach Posted July 19, 2008 Report Share Posted July 19, 2008 (edited) Hey,I have stripped down a frame to raw metal. I am thinking of keeping it this way. I would like to know how to create the surface effect that frames such as echo lite, team and control have. It's like a silver brushed effect. I am guessing I would need some type of buffing disk to create the lines and then just put a laquer on top...?Im also look for a topic, where someone has stripped down a 20" czar and smoothed the welds off etc made it 1.7kg. Would be most appreciated if someone could find it. I have looked and looked!Any help would be great.Nathan Edited July 19, 2008 by Nathan Coward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Smith Posted July 19, 2008 Report Share Posted July 19, 2008 use either a wire brush or scotch brite, work in one direction only though...............................i wouldnt of thought smoothing the welds out is a good idea.ash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Woodhouse Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 Is this the czar you mentioned http://kep.tar.hu/cphun/50550318#2 Also as said wire wool and i used some t-cut (usualy used for removing light scratches etc) it brings off all and i mean all the dirt and grime (you will see the results on the cloth you use) then white spirit to take off bits of the t-cut should look nice and shiney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that NBR dude Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 i wouldnt of thought smoothing the welds out is a good idea.Agreed. Theres certain areas of a frame that you really dont want to skimp on, and the welds that hold it all together would be one of those areas. The weight you're going to save compared to how incredibly weak your risking making your frame, is not worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sstein Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 There is an attachment for drills that is a circular disc made of wires. Haven't tried it on a frame, but worked amazingly on a booster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 i wouldnt of thought smoothing the welds out is a good idea.Works great for Klein...There is an attachment for drills that is a circular disc made of wires. Haven't tried it on a frame, but worked amazingly on a booster.I think that's a bit savage, tends to rip through the alloy too much.I would suggest some oil and fine/medium wire wool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Works great for Klein...I think that's a bit savage, tends to rip through the alloy too much.I would suggest some oil and fine/medium wire wool and cannondale (not sure if they still do it)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 and cannondale (not sure if they still do it)...They do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials_pimp Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 You wont get a brushed Alloy look from Polishing alone.Im not to sure on how they achive it, but polishing would only give you a shiney look.Also Dont use t-cut, Use Brasso, will give a much better result.If you really want to have a brushed look Lidls are selling Brushed Alloy Sticker sheets for £4.99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esfrost Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Thats my czar above in that link, and thats sand blasted which makes the surface of the frame a bit hars. The stock echo and zoo! frames have a different finish, i think they have some kind of lacquer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King C Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Im pretty sure smoothing off the welds isnt going to effect the strength that much, seeing as its purposely done in the engineering trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Smith Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Im pretty sure smoothing off the welds isnt going to effect the strength that much, seeing as its purposely done in the engineering trade. hmm never heard that one before and i work for one of the worlds largest engineering companies, we certainly don't 'smooth' off welds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King C Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Fair enough then. Thinking about it the things Im thinking of that have smoothed off welds dont really have and force put through them.hmm never heard that one before and i work for one of the worlds largest engineering companies, we certainly don't 'smooth' off welds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 In reality, why shouldn't you smooth off welds? The ripples along the top are just excess material, as long as you keep the main parts intact, it wont have any structural effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=114028Google + "how to brush aluminium" = we have a winner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavyn. Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 hmm never heard that one before and i work for one of the worlds largest engineering companies, we certainly don't 'smooth' off weldsyou sure about that? welds have to be smoothed on certain things. it's not exactly a common practice though and it's usually only there because it looks good not because it does anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philth Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 From my building code experience, the strength in welding Alu comes from the material you add in during the welding....but that not to say there isn't a point which you pass and have excess. As for brushing....what I've done, polish it, then take scotchbrite pad (industrial strengt?heavy duty works best.) and stroke in one direction!! this is where you will make of brake the final look. As long as you take the time to NOT go backward and forward, just using repetitive one direction strokes you will get a nice strait grain effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strelly Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 (edited) Im pretty sure that smoothing out welds would be a good idea, but it does depend on the amount of weld material used.Cannondale and klien perform oversized welds and smooth them out, so they have a similar amount of material to a normal arc weld. Having such a smooth weld will minimise any points of high stress brought on by the pattern from the welding.To be fair, both styles will have similar strength, its all about the annealing/heat treatment process afterwards. Edited July 23, 2008 by strelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ti-mig-guy Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 (edited) I am almost certain that you need to get a stiff copper brush, and "BRUSH" it to get the "BRUSHED" look. Hence the name. Haven't done it to a bike, but did it to an intake once-came out great.Definitely one direction, not back and forth. Edited July 23, 2008 by ti-mig-guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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