ForrestDump Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Gu'Day Everyone. Today while looking across my room at my bike I thought to myself whether a change in bar height would help progress my level of riding (lower or higher). As it stands I've got a Zoo! Lynx long frame with Echo Urban forks, on this I have a Try-All 3D stem (150mm x 30°) with V!Z Pro720 bars (88mm rise), oh, and beneath my stem I have 55mm of stackers so as you can imagine its a high front end (very high) on a mod but the other thing is that I'm 6ft3. So, I would play around with the stackers but the stem has a sloping top cap which makes it less easy. Would lowering my bars at all, say to 30mm of stackers, help at all with progression? Whats the pro's and con's of having a high front end/low front end. Thanks, James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarathal Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Whats the pro's and con's of having a high front end/low front end. High front end generally feels nicer for everything. Low front end for TGS bashers than might as well run their stems upsidedown for their obsession with long and low. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Gibson Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 I changed my stem for one with 15mm more rise! made a HUGE difference! felt much nicer (for me) I got a bad back from having a lower front end, just because I'm old! But at the end of the day its your bike, and you should have it the way you want! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 I've been told that in general, a bike with a high BB needs a higher front end than a bike with a low BB. I've found that bikes with a higher front end lift easier, but aren't as stable on the rear wheel. And bikes with a lower front end are slightly more stable on the rear wheel but they're harder to lift. Just my personal experience, hope it helped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForrestDump Posted October 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Thanks for all the comments so far. I think the only way I'll be able to test this is by removing a spacer at a time, I also switched (by chance) to a high front end when I bought my Lynx frame and loved the feel of it but I've never tried the heights in-between. I didn't know wether having a high front end would effect the height that I could progress to (with side hops for example). Im very into street moves which I understand that having a high front end is better for but that doesn't mean I don't like doing all the 'TGS' stuff, just want to find a set up thats sort of best for both..... Thanks again, keep the replies coming haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIGAN ?? Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 when i went to stock from mod 3 years ago i started off with a stupidly low stem and zoo bars, and every time i lifted my front end it made my bike so much nicer to ride and everything felt easier, im running a mod stem on there at the moment lol, yours does sound quite high though i'd just leave it as is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Got any pictures of the setup? I'd like to see quite how high it is, 5cm of stackers does sound quite a lot... But yeah it's probably best to move the stem down one at a time and see what you prefer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Sorry to hijack he thread, but what is TGS?! Heard it mentioned a lot in the forums but cannot work out what it means!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 TGS Tap Gap Sidehop. Search Neil Tunnicliffe, Damon Watson, Craig Lee Scott in youtube/ vimeo and watch in awe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForrestDump Posted October 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Got any pictures of the setup? I'd like to see quite how high it is, 5cm of stackers does sound quite a lot... But yeah it's probably best to move the stem down one at a time and see what you prefer. Well my bike isn't all together at the moment best thing I can suggest is to measure out 55mm on a ruler and look at that, same thing in the end haha, think I will have a play about with the stackers on at a time. Thing is I do love the feel with the bars high, I just don't like all the stackers haha, and I wasn't sure if there was a reason for loads of riders having a low front end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 TGS Tap Gap Sidehop. Search Neil Tunnicliffe, Damon Watson, Craig Lee Scott in youtube/ vimeo and watch in awe! Cheers, yeah I know of these riders! Why to 'TGS' riders get so much stick then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarathal Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 Because TGS riders are notorious for bashing, to some it's repetetive etc I prefer it to comp/natty, while I'll agree that natty riders have a lot of skill it's all too slow and boring for me. Bring back CLS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 On my 06 Python I started with 50mm of stackers, a trialtech stem and some 09 Rage bars which felt good at the time but it was the first mod I'd built. After looking at it seriously I took one of the 25mm stackers off and it rode so much better after, and I'm 6'3". Can find some pics if you want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForrestDump Posted October 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 On my 06 Python I started with 50mm of stackers, a trialtech stem and some 09 Rage bars which felt good at the time but it was the first mod I'd built. After looking at it seriously I took one of the 25mm stackers off and it rode so much better after, and I'm 6'3". Can find some pics if you want? Cheers mate, I can probably do without the pictures but thanks for the offer, I found riding my mates stock which had a low front end it felt really nice on the rear but not so good with both wheels on the ground rolling about. The only way I'm going to solve this problem is to mess around with the stackers I think and just see how it goes, what trial tech stem did you have? the one with the highest rise? Cheers everyone for the help and advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 Yeah the 150mm 35degree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForrestDump Posted October 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 Yeah the 150mm 35degree That would have been massively high with 50mm of stackers, higher than my current set up, I think if I had that stem then I'd get away with less stackers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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