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mrBENN

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we sprayed it

...and made it useless by doing so i'm afriad. If you spit on a rotor it gets contaminated, not to mention spraying it with anything. Don't use it, it'll make your pads unuseable too.

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Anyway, it's only a piece of steel in a circle, so if it hadnt been sprayed i would have thought it would as well as any other rotor of the same size?

Actually, no!

The materials and processes used in manufacture make a huse different to a disks performance.

If the rotor uses a low grade stainless, it will not wear well, be uneven and patchy in terms of bite. this is due to inconsitencies in the grain of the metal, and the inconsistencies in the make up of the alloy- steel is not a pure metal, its an alloy of Iron and Carbon.

Also, if a rotor is pressed (ie apollo rotors), not cut (like hopes), it will perform relatively badly. It means the rotor is not perfectly flat, and distorts the grain near all the edges, again detrimenting performance. Although pressed rotors are found on only the cheapest brakes, and easy to spot as you can see the rounded edges.

The reason for needing the rotor to be uniform to produce uniform friction is to do with how the friction actually occurs between the pad and the rotor. Its dynamic friction, as the pads /disk are moving in relation to each other, so the friction coefficient is never going to be perfectly equal at all times, but the more uniform the rotor, the more uniform the friction is likeyl to be.

this may also help explain it, quote from "grinding disk rotors" thread:

:lol: Sorry, still not sure I agree

There are two types of friction acting between disc and pad

a)Abrasive friction - brakes with this charateristic have a high wear rate and operate at a low('ish) temp and would be the result of a 'rough surface'

b)Adherent friction - where some of the pad material diffuses across the interface between the pad and the disc and forms a very thin, uniform layer of pad material on the surface of the disc. As the friction surfaces of both disc and pad then comprise basically the same material, material can now cross the interface in both directions and the bonds break and reform. More common on a smooth surface where the depositing of brake pad material is consistant, thus preventing judder when the brake is applied

or in otherwords

a) for low speed (cooler) applications with a high wear rate

b ) for high speed applications with a longer wear rate

In terms of a bicycle disc brake we're referring to both of the above, especially as theres no such thing as pure adherent or pure abrasive friction. Ideally you want one greater than the other depending on the application - in this case trials where application a) (low speed and concequently a low temperature) would be more beneficial. In DH, high friction would result in high temps and therefore a pad that worked at higher temps would be more suitable.

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