Wright Pads Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Echo brake in stock £100 plus deliverThats in the USA and the $ is good currently with £1 nearly $2!!! China will be way cheaper and if they will acpet USD you'll be in for a right treat of under £100 for the brake and cheaper shipping for some odd reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Token Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 wow good find pete! xe.com showing the price with the current currency rate the price is exactly 101.002 GBP. If anyone actually cares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted February 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 I know of some shops in China that have them but aprantly there is a relase date on them out there which is odd. Shipping form USA you can get in 2/3 days express for $15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Cox Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 good work pete im proud of you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghetto Rider Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 What's so great about those brakes? - Surely they'll just be as good as a magura?I take it you'll be paying for the brand which is why they're more expensive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Cox Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 What's so great about those brakes? - Surely they'll just be as good as a magura?I take it you'll be paying for the brand which is why they're more expensive!and that they have been developed to tackle some of the area's maguras fail i.e stronger bar clamp on lever, shorter slaves so you dont hit them with your pedal, longer lever blade for more responsive braking?research and development costs money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted February 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 - NEW CNC machined rim brake from trials specific brand Echo!- Full 6061-T6 construction offers strength and quality never seen before on rim brakes.- Similar TPA adjustment to the Magura HS33 brake is hidden away neatly.- Pinned lever blade pivot is held in place by a grub screw: much neater than other current rim brake systems, and prevents it from coming loose by itself!- Supplied fully bled and also includes colour-matched Echo CNC brake clamps and Echo brake pads.- Also includes CNC machined Echo lever blade in the same colour as the brake mounts, cylinder washers and brake bolts.- 80cm (front) and 120cm (rear) main hose as standard (which can be easily trimmed) to fit all bike setups.- Smaller brake cylinders offer better crank and heel clearance, and are also lighter!- Weight: Approx 315g per brake, including 4 bolt mountsBasicly every fault with Magura has been looked at and chnaged or removed by many chnages. For starters Magura are Magnesium alloy which fails easy. Echo are CNC 6061-T6. These are fully CNC'd not Deng's cast then CNC odd the surface but full on. The brakes are then heattreated (T6) after being CNC'd which make them tougher. Better hose, like Hope old black stuff. Think Magura used it some point on there disc stuff. The leaver bolt is a pin, which make a huge change. Hose pre cut and bled so all you should need to it fit it on the bike! Free set of pads and clamp inc for the best setup from new (pads i'm very unsure on). Slaves smaller so crank and heal interfearnace is a thing of the past with 47mm rim etc. Lighter, sexyer.Only think i would of asked for is a post mount clamp like the Hope leavers as to slide on and clamp down.Mind i think he said it's been 2 years in devlopment so thats good to know. Anyone want to order one as i might well be today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-Stop Junkie Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 For starters Magura are Magnesium alloy which fails easy.Though I've never heard of a Magura slave cylinder failing. Threads being stripped yes, but not failing. Therefore the magnesium alloy is suitable for the purpose.Echo are CNC 6061-T6. These are fully CNC'd not Deng's cast then CNC odd the surface but full on. The brakes are then heattreated (T6) after being CNC'd which make them tougher. Better hose, like Hope old black stuff. Think Magura used it some point on there disc stuff. The leaver bolt is a pin, which make a huge change. Hose pre cut and bled so all you should need to it fit it on the bike! Free set of pads and clamp inc for the best setup from new (pads i'm very unsure on). Slaves smaller so crank and heal interfearnace is a thing of the past with 47mm rim etc. Lighter, sexyer.Stating the obvious really Pete? It doesn't really add anything that you can't find elsewhere...Good find on the pricing though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Cox Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Though I've never heard of a Magura slave cylinder failing. Threads being stripped yes, but not failing. Therefore the magnesium alloy is suitable for the purpose.Stating the obvious really Pete? It doesn't really add anything that you can't find elsewhere...Good find on the pricing though.ive seen a couple of slaves actually crack before, i mean total falliure of metals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano_1 Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 well it looks nice but no way would i pay that price, my magura's are fine and i have the old one's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Papasnap Maher Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 I Think we should all harass matt staples, He has 2 of the buggers :|They do look sexy, think ill have to get one when my magura breaks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 My mate will have them for around the 70 pounds mark and that's in europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 the metal that maggies are made of is pure shite!!!! iv snapped sooooooo many levers its stupid. my mated broke clean in half just back hopping!! hahaha when mine goes ill deffo be getting one of these beasts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Cox Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 wow, they look the sex! never noticed the hose position before!! and 70 quid, cant go wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted February 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 ive seen a couple of slaves actually crack before, i mean total falliure of metalsOnce i've finshed sorting a upload out i'll go to me atic and get the slave that cracked and made me fall the 11ft and put my in plaster for 5 weeks. Mag's fail daily, trials, xc, all have there problem but i've cracked slaves countless times.Joe his a checky sod for having 2 of themInur proves one other point. Poland get them for £70, usa has them for £101 and we have them for £150. China must be cheaper than Poland on them at least. I know i'm pushing thing with what i say as i'll be telling all to not to by Deng stuff in the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Yeah but find a shop in China that will be willing to send you Echo parts. I've tried at least 3, one of which sent me some parts a few years back but now refuses to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Cox Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 how much inc postage inur? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onza Kieron Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 I wish I still rode trials so I could buy one. Look nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted February 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 (edited) Really thats odd, let me know whom they are as i may know the owner of them and can sweet talk to them and get a reason! They probs said shipping costs or soemthing.Edit: Something which is oddWhy would TIm be here reading this? Tim helped kick start the Deng empire off years and years ago and far as i know still is involved big time with it....now that odd he is here as i haven;t seen nor heared of this guy in years and year and more donky years Edited February 7, 2007 by Wright Pads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caeskoxx Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Once i've finshed sorting a upload out i'll go to me atic and get the slave that cracked and made me fall the 11ft and put my in plaster for 5 weeks. Mag's fail daily, trials, xc, all have there problem but i've cracked slaves countless times.Joe his a checky sod for having 2 of themInur proves one other point. Poland get them for £70, usa has them for £101 and we have them for £150. China must be cheaper than Poland on them at least. I know i'm pushing thing with what i say as i'll be telling all to not to by Deng stuff in the UKWith me in mexico you can get them cheap like 120 usd i dont know how much is in £also this brakes have the aluminum tpa !! no more shitty plastics tpas stuck!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted February 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 With me in mexico you can get them cheap like 120 usd i dont know how much is in £also this brakes have the aluminum tpa !! no more shitty plastics tpas stuck!!$120 USD is £61 currently. Shipping and customs ontop of that.I'd stiil say China is cheaper Is $120 USD confermed form your shop that has them right now in Mexico?Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andeee Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Well done mr pete wright. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 This is slightly but does anybody know if these lever blades are the same as the echo magura cnc'd levers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted February 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 This is slightly but does anybody know if these lever blades are the same as the echo magura cnc'd levers?It's been said exactly what they are Ted! Think about it why make a new product ontop of soemthing you make already and why not build around it thus increasing your market ten fold?? So yes the leavers are exactly the same as the Echo, GU, Zoo, etc to fit the 05 styled Magura HS33's and come in all the colors he does too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-Stop Junkie Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Trialsin USA is still very much going Pete. I noticed though that he doesn't stock Zoo or Echo anymore, just Zhi. Maybe Tim is still a keen trials rider, not to mention lover of good music and fine cheese, who's looking for more info on the Echo brake?One thing that's troubling me with this. That price from Midwest Biketrials, it's $200. That's a bit over £100. Plus shipping - say £20. Now tax and duty on that could be £28.05 based on duty at 5% and no handling charge being levied. Total so far, £148.05. Shipping time of a week, and you've saved exactly £4.95 over buying it from Tartybikes. And you're probably waiting a few more days for your shiney bits to arrive. And if they break you'll have to send them back to the States for warrenty issues.At the end of the day, isn't it better to buy it from a UK stockist like Tarty or Selectbikes? It may cost a couple more quid, but you're helping to sustain the UK trials scene, which helps everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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