Fishy Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 After watching Moto Gp, I was thinking how powerful their brakes must be. Then I read up that they have to be warm to be able to modulate, otherwise they are too bitey.So wouldn't they be perfect for those who love a none moduation front/back brake?I don't mean the actual calipers, just the pads and rotor. And I know the cost would be loads.Suggestion away... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Smith Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 hmm not too sure how carbon would work for a rotor, interesting thoughts though, would be brittle and break easily once hit on a rock though i would have imagined?ash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Posted March 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Yeah, wouldn't have thought they would last long on a trials bike. But still, think of all that power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_Fel Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Would be nice to experiment. If they are so amazing maybe they would be powerfull enough to use smaller rotors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJI Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Pretty sure no-one said carbon fibre. The break discs that people refer to as carbon are a carbon-ceramic.Carbon-Ceramic is a carbon fiber reinforced ceramic silicon carbide composite with excellent material properties. It can be tailored to specific applications, for example very low density with high strength.I don't think it'd be great for push bikes really, It is a brittle material (asin it shatters before it bends, not its weak) And because of this it would need to be quite thick, and there for heavy. Also the thinkness would mean youd need to re-design current push bike break calipers, also adding weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 if it was cheap then they would run it on japaneese super bikes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todge Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 I believe its more the fact that they perform poorly in wet conditions, hence the use of steel discs in the rain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Think of the cost...£40,000 for a ferarri enzo brake rotors... (carbon ones) How do i know this? my uncle owned a ferarri enzo... (no im not bullshitting...) he had it for around 6 weeks, then sold it for £1,040,000 he made the extra £40,000 cause he just got the new brakes added... and he said, it makes the whole diffrence in going fast and slowing down... pitty i never got to go in the car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-Stop Junkie Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 There have been carbon brake rotors made by Plazmatic. Paul T (for those old school riders!) had some for a while with special pads. They cost waaay too much to make, and the pads had a very short lifespan which meant they never went on sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b'mouth trials Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 The moto gp was a beast.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oskar Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 heh I had a picture on my computer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mettam1988 Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 id have thought they would weigh a poop load. and u can get steel discs to bite pretty well anyway so i guess its not worth the effort to make. maybe in the next few years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE trials commentator Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 i get confused with the moto gp team,last year they said the carbon brakes werent grabby at all when cold,infact they were pretty poor,until they heated up,then they worked great,and worked at their optimum around mid race,which was when the temperature was ideal for them.bloody confusing they are!by the way,who enjoyed Vale's showmanship at the end with his fanclub as bowling pins?that guy is pure class.i remember an interview with him a while ago :"Valentino,why do you live in London?why not Spain or Italy?" he replied with "the girls are better looking in London,and the beer isn't week as shite!" 4 weeks till the next round!Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janson Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 a few cf rotors were used in some swedish comps by some people a year or two back.they shattered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future orange 660 Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 they most probably get them replaced every race anyway. as with tyres and numerous other parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Cox Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 i get confused with the moto gp team,last year they said the carbon brakes werent grabby at all when cold,infact they were pretty poor,until they heated up,then they worked great,and worked at their optimum around mid race,which was when the temperature was ideal for them.bloody confusing they are!by the way,who enjoyed Vale's showmanship at the end with his fanclub as bowling pins?that guy is pure class.i remember an interview with him a while ago :"Valentino,why do you live in London?why not Spain or Italy?" he replied with "the girls are better looking in London,and the beer isn't week as shite!" 4 weeks till the next round!Carlwas a good round that. some very nice riding, that bloke who bailed on the corner looked nasty, fair play to him for getting back on the bike and kept riding! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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