look, this debate is blatantly never gonna be resolved because of difference in musical tastes. and thats cool, each to their own, but...
ive been producing hip-hop for a few years now and it sure as hell aint piss easy! Imo hip hop takes just as much time and effort to create as rock or any other "band" based music.
Put it this way a rock group can get together plug in their stuff ***, whereas hip hop is much more precise execution. You have to find a a sample which you think would make the BASIS of a tune cut it to length, usually timestrech it to fit a beat, which you have to create, thinking about which snare/hi-hat/kick drum ect sounds right for the song, then you may want to add synths and stuff, which may need effects put on them, so you have to find the right one etc etc. And all of this has to correspond with the mood and feeling of the lyrics!
trust me it is a long and lenghthy process.
Oh, and we do gigs with live drummers/percussion/female vocals, and thers a shite load of other hip hop groups who do. (check out www.fingathing.com for some downloads, when they gig they use an electric double bass and its awesome!)
Anyways thants my rant to try and persuade the narrow minded people on here that hip hop is a little more than just "MIX MIX MIX"
people just THINK before you open your mouths :wub:
Rob