Pads: monty221 xl Time used: 2 months Rim used: eho 07 - smooth Grind: No Ceraminc: No Brake used: Magura What is your opinion of a working brake: agressive bite, strong hold and loud sound How do they compare to previous pads you have used: the worst of the worst Review: were set up perfectly to start with, no sound, no bite, usless hold- couldnt gap. Started using them with tar, improved the performance alot with a nice sound and bite but after the two months one pad came out of the backing and the other was half way there. I'd never buy these pads again- just as good as magura blacks on smooth rim. Although they did have little wobble considering the plastic backing.