Well ive finally got the spec that suits me to a t!! Echo sl's didnt last long....(3weeks) so thanks to tarty for sorting me out with Trialtechs. Running Phatpads up front on the echo rim and flip meeeeeeee! Bite and hold in all weather, what more do you need!? Changed to Conti tyres again as front wheel a little heavy, i would change the echo front rim to something lighter but it holds a gring soo much better so il leave it be. The tyres make up for extra weight. Also running a new Viz Freewheel which has realy impressed me!! Thought id try something different after snapping two tensile's in as many weeks!! Anyway, spec as follows: Koxx Ksas frame Trialtech forks Dual Maggie with rock blue/phat pads Trialtech bars and grips Tryall nuc stem Tryall cranks and bash Viz freewheel Front King ISO on Echo, viz trans rim tape Rear Tryall H disc hub on Tryall holes double wall, squared holes, viz trans rim tape Kmc chain Vp single cage pedals FSA headset Continental Mountain King tyres, 2.4 rear, 2.2 front Bontrager tubes Cheers Nath