the way i see it. you buy a hope hub for £77:50 and away you go. ride whatever you like with it, however you like. you can service it yourself for next to nothing, and get spares cheap as chips / free you spend potentially over 3 times more (unless you do some tax evasion) and then have to faff about bedding in, taking apart (with special tools) changing driveshells and axles (oh wait, more money spending) and lubing up your hub JUST so you can ride it the way you want. and you still run the risk of dying a slow death if it skips (and skips badly) maybe i'm just cheap and lazy, but i can't say a few more engagements is worth all that. do they even make a difference to your riding? edit: ok hopes are £77:50. bargain