love the look love how it rides this kids made my mind up about my next frame...best of all abdabs back riding...the massive is together agen!!!...hehe me craig and you good old times pal and me and u can learn togther agen...going to be minta... o yeah as for the bars needing rolling back na i dont agree this is best way to have them inline with the stem i supose it depends on ur style though we all like it this way round here and the split link leave it nawt wrong wi um....cls still has his i havent seen him snap a chain lately.woop woop touch wood christof