HargrovesToby

Awsome bb's if you dont want to spend the world, should last a fair while to!

was there any rim left?!

I say go for it, you have nothing to loose mate!! mates of your mates gf's can work out, as long as it doesnt f**k up. Then again, women are just hassle, and if it seems to good to be true, it will be! i say just ride your bike!

how badly "bananad" is it? Might be beyond repair! if you do disassemble and re-build, use new spokes though!

Check out tarty's website, theres a video on there that should help mate

Haha yeah, we have enough problems with hydraulic brake warrantys as it is! Customers presuming that oil is oil, no matter what type it is. Even what you explain for hours the differences it goes nowhere! Mark - Yeah, true although some local supermarkets around here would challenge that!

Ahh didn't know that!! We're just advising from a professional bike shop point of view. Offering our point that brakes are supposed to be bled with correct oil, as specified by manufacturer, also to honour warrantys, like avid and magura leakproof warrantys. Toby

Ok i do understand you point mate. I have used water and anti-freeze before myself, worked fine for ages, until it got sluggish and i re-bled to find loads of black crap in the syringes. Magura, and disk brake companies, bleed their brakes with the fluid designed for them, and the make-up and parts of the brake. Thats why they come with oil, (plus if your avid or shimano loads of air!) Each to their own, i know people prefer the feel of water and antifreeze, just some stuff does have corrosive properties thats all were saying! Toby

Some seals, and rubber types are more suseptable to perishing through using the wrong liquids. Thats why you have to use different oils in different brakes! Anti-freeze, will perish seals. Seals in cars, are made of different rubbers, like using brake fluid through seals, car brake fluid would dissolve normal seals! You learn this on hydraulic brake servicing courses for cars and bikes alike! Maguras use a very soft seal, thats why they use mineral oil and not dot fluid. Anti freezes compounds have a similar corrosive properties to dot fluid. Thats why they tell you to wash off anti freeze from car paint because it dissolves it! Water is thinner than oils, possibly pass seals too! Toby

second that!

Depending on what anti-freeze and wter you use, you could be dissolving the seals. Maggies are bled with OIL!! like in disk brakes, using the wrong types of oil e.g mineral or dot, will dissolve the seals. You could have perished the seals, thus pushing black crap through the brake system. The smallest bit of grit or dirt in the brake will stop full return. We've seen this problem at work many times, with disks and maggies so id get rid of water and antifreeze and start using oil with new seals and a full, deep, clean. Toby

Hey, A bike brought from s shop must leave with reflectors and a bell, i work in the industry. Trials bikes are deemed for competition use only, so being stopped results in " i was on my way to a practice officer etc etc!" Once a production bike has left the shop, you can remove and dispose of bell and reflectors, if riding at night however, you must have lights or LED to "display yourself." Mudguards are not a legal requirement, otherwise every bike would come with them so hes talking out his arse! any problems give me a shout, il run through the wholeof UK cycle law with you! toby

Heu Guys, Just a few quick pics on 2 differen't bikes, the demo just before xmas for the company i work for and the others just some play shots in the evening, damp and foggy...lovely! cheers guys, Toby @ Hargroves Cycles Chichester