It looks alrite I guess, nothing special really. I think dengs getting a little lazy now, theres only a couple cnc parts that seperate this from the echo lite. Altho with shorter chain stays I bet it rides great. Edit: Just noticed there craigy boy, running your snail cams the other way up would be nicer for them, failed sidehop attempted hurt that area of my bike resulting in bent cams before I realised, and bent cams = not good, bmx tugs rock. Fin.