Krisboats

Oh christ, that was funny as hell!

I know him, b*****d gave me cracked cranks

Hit me up on msn if you want.

This and film it!

It's not really putting on a front though, if anything it's coming out of the wussy boy mentality that you were raised to have by your parents and actually be yourself around women. It's a known fact that mothers tell their sons to be nice to girls and drill it into them from the beginning because A) it makes their life easier if the kid isn't constantly being a cocky little twat and if you ask a woman what triggers attraction they usually don't know. They'll come out with things like someone who treats me well and is always nice and who is reliable but then they run off with the guy who makes them feel attraction. Now given that a lot of guys don't know how to talk to women or talk to them in the ways they were raised by disney films and their mothers they are actually acting AGAINST their better nature. What has been drilled into them from an early age is actually detrimental to their success with women. I'd say these books are guides for creating opportunities to get to know girls rather than to go out pulling because to be fair, the kind of girl you can take home after a couple of drinks and some funny conversation is not the kind of girl you'd really be wanting to have a long lasting and trusting relationship with. It gets you past the initial stage of approaching a girl and getting her number to meeting up a few times so you can get to see if SHE's interesting and funny and worth YOUR time, not the other way around. I'm a firm believer that if you want to meet a girl but your somewhat clueless and you end up getting branded friend material because of it then you're missing out on opportunities needlessly. If you can spark attraction at the beginning you can get to know her and she'll be happy to go with it should you find her someone you can spend a long time with. I'm happy for you with regards to you and your lady i really am, but if i hadn't read these books i'd still be cluseless and i don't find it too much of a stretch to see the correlation between me reading these books and three weeks later starting a relationship that's so far lasted 3 months and is looking to go on for quite some time yet. I'm definitely standing by the "read them or your a fool" viewpoint.

You really should. The thing about it is though is that the stuff here works. I know not everybody's the same but the principles that are taught work in 90% of situations which is completely different to before reading them and having 0-5% chance of getting past the initial walls when meeting someone. Girls won't like to admit that they are all the same, but they really are. Obviously they'll have different ways in regards to a sense of humour so particular styles of humour will vary from person to person but overall, cocky and funny works like magic. Once you read through them you change your views completely. I read through the first time and it was like someone had come down and re-wired my way of thinking entirely. It wasn't long before i "got it" and understood how things worked i just needed showing what it means when you fit all the pieces together. Which is why the books only cover the principles, reasons behind them and repeatedly suggest that there's no substitute for learning like taking what's written and applying it in real life. So much of it is counter intuitive though that you just wouldn't figure it out alone. The David D one's are a selection of videos, audio tapes and ebooks. You can buy them through his site or if your into "trying before you buy" 'David DeAngelo' should work fine for obtaining them through certain illegal methods. I'd definitely recommend the 18 e-books series, including "attraction isn't a choice", "critical moments and bridges" and "what every man should know". Literally eye opening stuff.

Their postage was 3-5 business days when i last used them and damn expensive for what it was too. They aren't cheap or fast but they do have some stuff that other people don't.

That's what i like about the David D stuff, he focuses mainly on meeting people and getting around the barriers people put up to block them from having to deal with the same old repetitve confrontations all the time as opposed to branding it a get laid any time you want type scheme. I think of all of it the best bits were from his mastery series where he goes deep into human interactions not only from a sexual point of view but things like interactions within the workplace between you and your bosses and social dynamics between friends and relatives. I know what you mean about it changing your everyday life as well. I went from being fairly socially unsure to starting up conversations with everyone and anyone now regardless of location. I feel a lot better for it now as well, which is great.

A lot of stuff by a guy called David D helped enormously with stuff like social hierarchy's and dominant/submissive communication techniques then just general observations from being out and about coupled with watching classic human interactions in old films like the Maltese Falcon and a lot of John Wayne stuff.

No not yet, though i will be looking for a copy soon i guess... you've sparked some curiosity.

Not long ago to be honest, and up until recently i've been one of the worst people to ask for advice but now i "get it" and once you do "get it" you see other people failing in exactly the same ways i have. To be fair if you were being pedantic you could say i've been a guru all my life... but only in the ways that DON'T work. I'm probably one of the best people for spotting things that don't and will never work with women due to having tried just about all of them The only difference nowadays is that i know WHY the techniques and personality never works. Truth is though for the past few months i've been looking a lot into human psychology and communication and a large part of it was because i was fed up of never getting the results i wanted. I did all the wrong things thinking they were right because it was socially drilled into me to do nice things for girls. What a load of shit, i mean really... come on. After doing some reading on human interactions and the reasoning behind basic fundamentals of human psychology like the reasons we have laughter everything just seemed to click into place and you look around seeing just how everything fits together like a well oiled machine. I was out the other week with boumsong and we spent a little while just observing how clueless a lot of people really are. Once you know what your looking at as well you can even begin to predict which ones are going to fail miserably before they've even tried! Sorry about the length... i'm in a chatty mood today i guess.

Yeah, it doesn't sound like she's giving you many options here for seeing her again. Whether that's intentional or not is another question. Another thing... what is it with guys telling girls they like them straight out like this?!? "Uh.. Yeah, i really like you" Way to hand over any control over the situation and effectively your own balls to the girl you like and simultaneously come across as being a wussy by giving away all your power. Girls are better than guys at reading people.... tonnes better. She'll probably know you like her before even you do. TRUE FACT. Girls don't want you to tell them because it says all the wrong things about you. Try it next time your out, go and tell someone you think they're gorgeous and that you really like them and you'll see how fast it stops everything you could hope to happen with her as she hands you out a massive dose of cold shoulder. Imagine how many times said girl gets clueless halfwits telling her she's gorgeous or that they want her number. It happens A LOT! It's both predictable and boring and she'll immediately categorise you into the group of "clueless nice guy... will bore me shitless". Don't tell a girl you like her! EDIT: That wasn't a rant at you glen, just a global rant at something i've noticed from several people.

Take it you didn't read that book i sent you? It wasn't that she wasn't ready... just that she wasn't interested. She just didn't want to say she had no attraction for you because it'd probably hurt your feelings. Forget, move on and try not to be so "nice". And read that sodding book!

You didn't buy a decent screen with dvi?

Yeah the card'll be fine with just a little adaptor. It'll just be like having a dual vga card once you plug the adaptor on, the card won't really notice the difference and will sort it all out for you... it'll just work.

Ah that's shit... i thought they all did. Especially as from the product page showing the card having dual dvi. I guess i should have figured when he wrote "should i send it back"... kinda denotes he has the card and there wasn't one in the box :$ I'll have to pay more attention.

Should have one in the box with the card

Not really, a lot of people experience the same.

Makes rim brakes impossible though

Yep

I don't care - I'm mega-amateur, so the looks are what's important Fretless works cool.

This is Flipp (aener) on Kris' account. Just took the pictures over here. Finally! She is the done. 'Bout 200 man hours in this project Fretless, bitches. She's kind of a small one.... Together for a comparison:

Mate, you've never seen the bruce willis film unbreakable? Get some carrier bags and hook the weights over the end of the lockrings inside the bags

I know, that's why i said once you've got them To be fair, those bowflex things are no different from ordinary spinlock disc setups only a damn sight more expensive (being that you can buy the rack only for £150+ ) and probably good for those without basic maths skills. A couple of these or bigger and some bars gives you basically all you need for freeweight stuff. Changing the discs is hardly a chore and takes all of a few seconds, somewhat of an ironic principle behind the bowflex ones.