another way to think of it is, from the 'post a pic of your 24' topic, how many people said they love the look and stuff, and want to try 24, but one big problem, the only 24 frames that look like they do are really only leeson ashton and curtis, cheepest being a 350+, so i think theres a big need for a company to bring a 24 frame out that is in a cheaper price bracket, and as seen from other onza frames, i think their the perfect company to come up with this frame.