I like them, my only problem with such bikes (after riding an Inspired) is that the seat is pretty pointless. Even if you sit down, the handlebars are so far away that you can't pedal along. Either way, apart from the stem the Echo looks great, black Adamant isn't my cup of tea but it sure looks interesting. edit: most importantly, with backing from such a big manufacturer, 24" street/trials is going to get more and more popular and that's always a good thing.