bullshit, you get 26 inch profiles on koxx rims even though profiles are shit on a stock bike. The new echo will be way better after all the testing they're doing cause its taking long enough. The person you are reffering to about going back to king now has a pro 2 on an echo rim and says it's good. kev may not like his pro 2 but he's had an xc since he started i think.